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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:45 pm 
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Maybe I am remembering things incorrectly, but comments against the Bush administration were very common.


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Maybe I am remembering things incorrectly, but comments against the Bush administration were very common.



You are remembering incorrectly.


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Patrick Bateman wrote:
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Maybe I am remembering things incorrectly, but comments against the Bush administration were very common.


You are remembering incorrectly.


Yeah, everyone supported the war in 2003.

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Huge crowds of anti-war demonstrators jammed into midtown New York on Saturday as protesters in dozens of U.S. cities joined large crowds worldwide in voicing opposition to war with Iraq.

Demonstrators converged near the United Nations to protest the possible war in just one of the more than 600 anti-war rallies around the globe. Organizers estimated the crowd at more than 375,000, but Police Commissioner Ray Kelly estimated turnout at 100,000.

Besides protests in large cities such as Chicago, Illinois; and Los Angeles, California; rallies were held across the United States in smaller towns such as Gainesville, Georgia; Macomb, Illinois; and Juneau, Alaska, according to the anti-war group United for Peace and Justice. http://articles.cnn.com/2003-02-15/us/sprj.irq.protests.main_1_anti-war-rallies-anti-war-movement-police-use-pepper-spray?_s=PM:US


That said, Bush's approval rating (Gallup) was 90% the week after 9/11 and still 71% at the beginning of the war. Obama peaked at 67%. http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Approval-Center.aspx


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 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam Twenty, Cameron Crowe Documentary (2011)
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he was in bed by 10pm the night of 9/11 and his approval rating was 90%?

wow.

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he was in bed by 10pm the night of 9/11 and his approval rating was 90%?

wow.

And if he was up until 2am people would say he's not getting enough sleep for the morning briefings on 9/12.

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dimejinky99 wrote:
he was in bed by 10pm the night of 9/11 and his approval rating was 90%?

wow.

And if he was up until 2am people would say he's not getting enough sleep for the morning briefings on 9/12.

anybody would have had this approval rating at the time, seriously. what matters is that W. will go down in history as a fucking dangerous idiot.

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mastaflatch wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
he was in bed by 10pm the night of 9/11 and his approval rating was 90%?

wow.

And if he was up until 2am people would say he's not getting enough sleep for the morning briefings on 9/12.

anybody would have had this approval rating at the time, seriously. what matters is that W. will go down in history as a fucking dangerous idiot.

yep

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mastaflatch wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
he was in bed by 10pm the night of 9/11 and his approval rating was 90%?

wow.

And if he was up until 2am people would say he's not getting enough sleep for the morning briefings on 9/12.

anybody would have had this approval rating at the time, seriously. what matters is that W. will go down in history as a fucking dangerous idiot.



...who won an election because millons of people voted and choose him to stay there.


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VinylGuy wrote:
mastaflatch wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
he was in bed by 10pm the night of 9/11 and his approval rating was 90%?

wow.

And if he was up until 2am people would say he's not getting enough sleep for the morning briefings on 9/12.

anybody would have had this approval rating at the time, seriously. what matters is that W. will go down in history as a fucking dangerous idiot.



...who won an election because millons of people voted and choose him to stay there.

What's your point?

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cutuphalfdead wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
mastaflatch wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
he was in bed by 10pm the night of 9/11 and his approval rating was 90%?

wow.

And if he was up until 2am people would say he's not getting enough sleep for the morning briefings on 9/12.

anybody would have had this approval rating at the time, seriously. what matters is that W. will go down in history as a fucking dangerous idiot.



...who won an election because millons of people voted and choose him to stay there.

What's your point?


in history G.W.Bush will go down as a fucking dangerous idiot yes, but its important to remember that almost a whole country was with him. He was reelected and became a very popular president at the time because of the war, because of the patriot stuff, all those thing made him very, very popular.


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VinylGuy wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
mastaflatch wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
he was in bed by 10pm the night of 9/11 and his approval rating was 90%?

wow.

And if he was up until 2am people would say he's not getting enough sleep for the morning briefings on 9/12.

anybody would have had this approval rating at the time, seriously. what matters is that W. will go down in history as a fucking dangerous idiot.



...who won an election because millons of people voted and choose him to stay there.

What's your point?


in history G.W.Bush will go down as a fucking dangerous idiot yes, but its important to remember that almost a whole country was with him. He was reelected and became a very popular president at the time because of the war, because of the patriot stuff, all those thing made him very, very popular.

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warehouse wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
mastaflatch wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
he was in bed by 10pm the night of 9/11 and his approval rating was 90%?

wow.

And if he was up until 2am people would say he's not getting enough sleep for the morning briefings on 9/12.

anybody would have had this approval rating at the time, seriously. what matters is that W. will go down in history as a fucking dangerous idiot.



...who won an election because millons of people voted and choose him to stay there.

What's your point?


in history G.W.Bush will go down as a fucking dangerous idiot yes, but its important to remember that almost a whole country was with him. He was reelected and became a very popular president at the time because of the war, because of the patriot stuff, all those thing made him very, very popular.

*1/2


" almost a whole country"


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half of the coutry is "almost" the entire thing.

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VinylGuy wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
mastaflatch wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
he was in bed by 10pm the night of 9/11 and his approval rating was 90%?

wow.

And if he was up until 2am people would say he's not getting enough sleep for the morning briefings on 9/12.

anybody would have had this approval rating at the time, seriously. what matters is that W. will go down in history as a fucking dangerous idiot.



...who won an election because millons of people voted and choose him to stay there.

What's your point?


in history G.W.Bush will go down as a fucking dangerous idiot yes, but its important to remember that almost a whole country was with him. He was reelected and became a very popular president at the time because of the war, because of the patriot stuff, all those thing made him very, very popular.

i don't know why his re-election is important to remember in those terms. i'd rather remember it in the context of fear and hate-mongering politics. people will do the most weird things under duress. i'm happy that Eddie took a stand that went against some of the ticket-buying public opinions. there's a lot to be said about a country that embarks on a "freedom war" yet boos someone using his freedom of speech in an artistic way. for chrissake, Bushleaguer isn't an extremist's song.

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all of the previous caveats included, it was a big deal for people to speak out in the mainstream against w. and iraq at the time. we were in the post 9/11 haze at least through 2005. then katrina happened and kind of woke everyone up. simplifying, i know, but...

the mainstream media (read: 90% of media at the time), covered the anti-war protests far far less than they did, say, the tea party, which is dwarfed in numbers by the anti-war movement in 02-03.

in pj-speak, all of this is to say that it was quite controversial for eddie to have done this at the time.

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Mass entertainment has been sanitized to the extreme. So few people that reach large audiences actually speak up any more. When was the last time a professional athlete in the States voiced an opinion on politics or social issues and so on?

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hey, that country music monday night football guy compared Obama to hitler. does that count?

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hey, that country music monday night football guy compared Obama to hitler. does that count?

And they almost cut his balls off, didn't they?

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I'm gonna watch this one more time then trade it for posters I reckon.

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VinylGuy wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
mastaflatch wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
he was in bed by 10pm the night of 9/11 and his approval rating was 90%?

wow.

And if he was up until 2am people would say he's not getting enough sleep for the morning briefings on 9/12.

anybody would have had this approval rating at the time, seriously. what matters is that W. will go down in history as a fucking dangerous idiot.



...who won an election because millons of people voted and choose him to stay there.

What's your point?


in history G.W.Bush will go down as a fucking dangerous idiot yes, but its important to remember that almost a whole country was with him. He was reelected and became a very popular president at the time because of the war, because of the patriot stuff, all those thing made him very, very popular.


In 2004, there were just over 221m Americans of voting age. GWB got just over 62m votes.

Perhaps you were trying to say that almost all of Thailand (2004 population 64m) was with him?


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