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Farmer John wrote:
Eddie Vedder wrote:
I'm gonna play a song now that probably didn't get much airplay back in the day but it's off the Daydream Nation record by Sonic Youth and it's track one, side one and it's called "Teenage Riot."
Yes, that.
Jorge, sorry if it comes across this way, but this isn't some hand-on-heart crusade.
I think Eddie's kind of a dork, yes. Sometimes he says things I find amusingly dumb. Some posters in this thread appeared to think I was nuts by suggesting that Sonic Youth weren't a terribly obscure band, so I was having some chuckles posting about how silly a proposition that is.
CARRY ON.
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Farmer John wrote:
Eddie Vedder wrote:
I'm gonna play a song now that probably didn't get much airplay back in the day but it's off the Daydream Nation record by Sonic Youth and it's track one, side one and it's called "Teenage Riot."
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To clarify: the silly proposition is that Sonic Youth were obscure at any point past, say, the middle of the 1980s. My wording above isn't terribly clear.
Jesus Christ, just shut the fuck up about it. You're taking a silly radio segue out of context, twisting it into something it wasn't (nobody ever said SY or the song "Teen Age Riot" was obscure) to further a point no one is arguing against. Yeah, dude. You know more about music history in the Internet age than Ed did in the mid-90s. COOL.
This is rare from Platy and im so gay for this on all sides.
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Your argument is that Ed is a dork and thinks he is some music guru because he liked SOnic youth. And you don't buy that because you were hip to Sonic Youth because they were played all over Australia Radio, so ed is a poser.
And Ed was simply stating that Sonic Youth should be bigger ,was not played on the radio (which - is actually fairly true as they are one of the bands that defined "left of the dial)
So, i really have no idea what you are arguing except your own belief of how hip you were to cool bands without Eds guidance whilst living in a post Radio world.
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spenno wrote:
:nice:
Their name is spelled "Zeek" on the ID tags that show up when I play Self Pollution Radio in my car, but I see that it is spelled "Zeke" on that clip.
This isn't a terribly exciting revelation except for the fact that I saw two LPs from a band spelled the youtube way at Cactus just the other day. I may have to go by and see if they are still there tomorrow.
Thanks Self Pollution Radio, for all that you do.
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62strat wrote:
Your argument is that Ed is a dork and thinks he is some music guru because he liked SOnic youth.
Well...yeah, pretty much.
It's not any reflection on him as a person or as a musician, I just thought it was funny. It doesn't have to have been Ed, I would chortle if anyone presented that song in that same light. It's just some wholesome, bad-natured, snarky fun - not some proclamation of my own musical superiority. We're having this discussion on a Pearl Jam message board; there is no hipster high-ground here.
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spenno wrote:
62strat wrote:
Your argument is that Ed is a dork and thinks he is some music guru because he liked SOnic youth.
Well...yeah, pretty much.
It's not any reflection on him as a person or as a musician, I just thought it was funny. It doesn't have to have been Ed, I would chortle if anyone presented that song in that same light. It's just some wholesome, bad-natured, snarky fun - not some proclamation of my own musical superiority. We're having this discussion on a Pearl Jam message board; there is no hipster high-ground here.
Quit backtracking. Commit to your superiority or GTFO
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62strat wrote:
spenno wrote:
62strat wrote:
Your argument is that Ed is a dork and thinks he is some music guru because he liked SOnic youth.
Well...yeah, pretty much.
It's not any reflection on him as a person or as a musician, I just thought it was funny. It doesn't have to have been Ed, I would chortle if anyone presented that song in that same light. It's just some wholesome, bad-natured, snarky fun - not some proclamation of my own musical superiority. We're having this discussion on a Pearl Jam message board; there is no hipster high-ground here.
Quit backtracking. Commit to your superiority or GTFO
Like I said before, I can't speak for the American experience.
Sonic Youth, Mudhoney, early Nirvana: as far as I know, all of those bands were more successful and well-known in the UK, Europe and Australia before they were successful at a similar level in the US. Though that isn't to say they were small potatoes in the US either: they were having records released, going on tour, being reviewed and interviewed by the press, making film clips, etc.
Maybe it just seems different to me than it does to you guys - that isn't taking a position of superiority necessarily. It's a silly argument, anyway.
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Yes- they were making a mark. Nobody is arguing that. However, they were only making a big mark on a very small subset of music culture.
That is why Nirvana was big. Because they took what everybody else was already doing - and for some reason - were able to catapult into the mainstream.
That is not saying Sonic Youth weren't legit. Or not good. Or not cool. Or not popular. They were part of a subset of bands that were doing something unique and creating something new on all levels as far as music, marketing, touring etc... They just never got the exposure that bands, who may have been less deserving (such as nirvana or pearl jam etc..) were able to get into the mainstream.
Ed is spot on. He's not posing, he's not being a tool, he just stated the fact.
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