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Anyone heard this? I got the CD single on a chance random visit at my friend's University student union from a charity shop for 50p (about a dollar). It has a single and LP version.

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It's not even 1/10th of Pearl Jam's version.


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PJ with Victoria Williams is on the No Fucking Messiah bootleg. I'm not particularly keen on that version though.

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Never heard it.

The first two times PJ did Crazy Mary live they actually sang it with Victoria Williams (9/6/93 & 11/17/93) I have heard a recording of at that and I was not impressed with her voice. Thats why I never tried to find her version.


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The studio version seems ok. She sings it kind of differently.

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OmegaprimeVKM wrote:
The studio version seems ok. She sings it kind of differently.


She also recorded her version AFTER PJ did their version.


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Buggy wrote:
OmegaprimeVKM wrote:
The studio version seems ok. She sings it kind of differently.


She also recorded her version AFTER PJ did their version.


Yes.

I've discussed this in the past, however, should Crazy Mary be considered a collaboration rather than a cover?

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CopperTom wrote:
Buggy wrote:
OmegaprimeVKM wrote:
The studio version seems ok. She sings it kind of differently.


She also recorded her version AFTER PJ did their version.


Yes.

I've discussed this in the past, however, should Crazy Mary be considered a collaboration rather than a cover?


wasn't it her song first?

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Victoria Williams wrote it, I'd say that makes it a cover.

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Victoria Williams wrote it, I'd say that makes it a cover.


that makes Elvis the greatest cover artist ever.


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conoalias wrote:
sirav wrote:
Victoria Williams wrote it, I'd say that makes it a cover.


that makes Elvis the greatest cover artist ever.


Elton John?

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Buggy wrote:
OmegaprimeVKM wrote:
The studio version seems ok. She sings it kind of differently.


She also recorded her version AFTER PJ did their version.


I did not know that. is that the case with everything on sweet relief, or just crazy mary?

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stip wrote:
conoalias wrote:
sirav wrote:
Victoria Williams wrote it, I'd say that makes it a cover.


that makes Elvis the greatest cover artist ever.


Elton John?


him too.


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Can someone point me in the direction of an MP3 of the original version from Sweet Relief. I've not heard it in many years. Would take me back to being 14.

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You could download the whole album from Soulseek, for instance.

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conoalias wrote:
stip wrote:
conoalias wrote:
sirav wrote:
Victoria Williams wrote it, I'd say that makes it a cover.


that makes Elvis the greatest cover artist ever.


Elton John?


him too.


Elton John writes virtually all of his own music, Taupin (and others) usually write the lyrics. Are we going to start calling "Pilate" a cover, too, because Ed didn't write the words?


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conoalias wrote:
sirav wrote:
Victoria Williams wrote it, I'd say that makes it a cover.


that makes Elvis the greatest cover artist ever.


People wrote music FOR Elvis. That makes it Elvis songs.
Victoria Williams didnt write Crazy Mary FOR Pearl Jam. Which makes it a cover.


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I am curious about this. I didn't realize she didn't release the song for a year after Sweet Relief. How did the band know the song?


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Buggy wrote:
conoalias wrote:
sirav wrote:
Victoria Williams wrote it, I'd say that makes it a cover.


that makes Elvis the greatest cover artist ever.


People wrote music FOR Elvis. That makes it Elvis songs.
Victoria Williams didnt write Crazy Mary FOR Pearl Jam. Which makes it a cover.


if she didn't release it herself before PJ released it, how can it be a cover? there was no released song to cover.


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conoalias wrote:
Buggy wrote:
conoalias wrote:
sirav wrote:
Victoria Williams wrote it, I'd say that makes it a cover.


that makes Elvis the greatest cover artist ever.


People wrote music FOR Elvis. That makes it Elvis songs.
Victoria Williams didnt write Crazy Mary FOR Pearl Jam. Which makes it a cover.


if she didn't release it herself before PJ released it, how can it be a cover? there was no released song to cover.


I guess because the band had heard her version. It might not of been released but she had still written the song.


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