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didn't see this in another thread so forgive me if this is old news...

saw this on the other board: http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=179248

can't read the article links, but the first one has a cool new pic...

the thread contains some translated excerpts from the band. if translated correctly, some pretty cool comments from the band.

:roll: (wondering why i took latin in hs as some french would come in handy right now)


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Oh yeah like anyone is gonna read french


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Patrick Bateman wrote:
Oh yeah like anyone is gonna read french


:lol: i thought maybe... rm is a pretty resourceful crowd!

still like the pic...


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bigeye21 wrote:
Patrick Bateman wrote:
Oh yeah like anyone is gonna read french


:lol: i thought maybe... rm is a pretty resourceful crowd!

still like the pic...


Well i'm french, so who knows...


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hi - first post here - i did look up those french articles.. although i'm french-speaking (from quebec city) i utterly dislike french rock critics -either they take under hyped bands like pearl jam to a "let me get back" status or they push for over-hyped bands just because they're granted an interview - anyway i think they're mostly biaised - trying to do good street litterature instead of being objective...
but this was a good review so there it is (the last page):

PEARL JAM
"Pearl Jam"

Among all the major early-nineties grunge bands, Pearl Jam is the last since a while. Paying the price of a frenzied medatic retreat, Eddie Vedder's band managed to not explode. Even if they most likely don't give a fuck, their place in the rock world, often renewed by many underground acts takes its answer in their eponymous eighth album, their first in four years. The first tracks tell us: no compromise. None of Pearl Jam albums had known such an abrasive and radical opening. Blame it on George Bush to have assured this band's inspiration for years. "Life Wasted", "Worldwide Suicide" - titles are eloquent and the guitars raging. Stone Gossard, by the amazing pounding of Matt Cameron, throws revolted riffs - 15 years of neglection behind - we now catch its originality. Excellent news: Mike Mcready is again the secret weapon of their first two albums - full with flaming wah-wah solos everywhere. On the first five tracks, they manage to keep an awesome equilibrum; 70's structures and punk energy with a bit of melodies. In the midst of the album, accoustic guitars come in (except for the ravaging "Big Wave"). But Pearl Jam ends it with strenght and finesse: "Come Back", a slow song that swells with joy and "Inside Job", a crepuscular roaming suddenly unnerved with electric discharges. Even tussed in their corner - they were right to go on.
4 stars (out of 5)

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Hi mastaflatch, if you're a french speaking you're welcome on the PJ french speaking forum (where those article were originaly posted)
:arrow: http://www.pjbootstrading.org/forum

tu rencontreras aussi d'autres québequois comme toi mais aussi des français, belges et suisses. A bientôt, Oli

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thanks but i think this forum is the shit for now
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hi - first post here - i did look up those french articles.. although i'm french-speaking (from quebec city) i utterly dislike french rock critics -either they take under hyped bands like pearl jam to a "let me get back" status or they push for over-hyped bands just because they're granted an interview - anyway i think they're mostly biaised - trying to do good street litterature instead of being objective...
but this was a good review so there it is (the last page):

PEARL JAM
"Pearl Jam"

Among all the major early-nineties grunge bands, Pearl Jam is the last since a while. Paying the price of a frenzied medatic retreat, Eddie Vedder's band managed to not explode. Even if they most likely don't give a fuck, their place in the rock world, often renewed by many underground acts takes its answer in their eponymous eighth album, their first in four years. The first tracks tell us: no compromise. None of Pearl Jam albums had known such an abrasive and radical opening. Blame it on George Bush to have assured this band's inspiration for years. "Life Wasted", "Worldwide Suicide" - titles are eloquent and the guitars raging. Stone Gossard, by the amazing pounding of Matt Cameron, throws revolted riffs - 15 years of neglection behind - we now catch its originality. Excellent news: Mike Mcready is again the secret weapon of their first two albums - full with flaming wah-wah solos everywhere. On the first five tracks, they manage to keep an awesome equilibrum; 70's structures and punk energy with a bit of melodies. In the midst of the album, accoustic guitars come in (except for the ravaging "Big Wave"). But Pearl Jam ends it with strenght and finesse: "Come Back", a slow song that swells with joy and "Inside Job", a crepuscular roaming suddenly unnerved with electric discharges. Even tussed in their corner - they were right to go on.
4 stars (out of 5)



thanks--was this all there was?

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that was my best translation of the proper review in those 5 pages about PJ but the rest was pretty interresting though - i can't, without being paid for it, translate the whole article heheh - just keep in mind that you should have been on french class instead of toking in the backyard listening to blind melon - it was a great interview but i still like the proper (english) versions instead

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mastaflatch wrote:
that was my best translation of the proper review in those 5 pages about PJ but the rest was pretty interresting though - i can't, without being paid for it, translate the whole article heheh - just keep in mind that you should have been on french class instead of toking in the backyard listening to blind melon - it was a great interview but i still like the proper (english) versions instead


I took 3 years of french in high school and hated it. I guess this is karma.

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Haha, I'm in grad school studying French, and next year I'm moving to France when I finish my M.A. I was wondering if there were any francophones ici.

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Haha, this is great. "These days it is as easy to buy a live Pearl Jam CD as it is to buy a piece of wood or a tire."

Genius.

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well, quite a long story to translate :shock: i'll give it a try when i'm coming back from work tonight (it's 8am now in france) while listening to a bootleg or the new album :lol: at last maybe someone will post the translation before...

4 your info : it's an article from ROCK&FOLK, wich is the main and historic "mainstream rock" magazine in france... (also there is a french edition of ROLLING STONE, and other titles devoted to metal, neo metal and stupid things like that... :twisted: ) so it's interesting that the most important rock mag in france gets really positive about this album. :wink: by the way ROCK&FOLK is out every month on the 15th... so this article is probably a leak :lol:

in general their views are a bit conservative, but always truely interesting... they give itws & reviews (rock, garage, pop, sometimes electro), they've got historical issues about old classic rock, blues and r&b wich are very complete. But the major lack is that they stresses to much about the "new garage" thing, every number of this magazine is full of "pete doherty and libertines" crap... :cry:

here is the translation of the line under the 92' photo on page 2 :
"pearl jam : some difficult (clothing) debut" :lol:


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Haha, this is great. "These days it is as easy to buy a live Pearl Jam CD as it is to buy a piece of wood or a tire."

Genius.

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here is the translation of the line under the 92' photo on page 2 : "pearl jam : some difficult (clothing) debut" :lol:


:lol:

they all look pretty bad, but stone in particular looks like he got dressed in the dark!


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here is the translation for page one, have a good reading, next page is for tonight (now i REALLY must go to work :wink: ). And xcuse for my bad english, but i think it all makes sense.... :oops:

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The problem with groups who become succesfull so quickly, is that while they sell millions of records at the begining of their career , the following records carry a sort of « natural bad-luck » syndrome in them, even if the public’s boredom is more in cause than the actual artistic inspirations of the bands. Whatever if your name is Oasis (for example) or Pearl Jam (as we’re concerned). In a few weeks, ex-grunge-icon-from-the-90’s Eddie Vedder and his mates will release « Pearl Jam », their 8th studio album to date (the 184th if we count every concert the group has released in CD). So is it good Pearl Jam ? Well… It’s Pearl Jam.

Despite millions of album sold, and the first 4 records that has made Pearl Jam the bigger « new-classic-rock band » in the world in the wake of Cobain’s suicide, the seattle-based band gave us the impression to rest on his laurels, playing a music that has become repetitive instead of improving itself. While we can have faith on Ten, Vs and Vitalogy, today it’s harder to find Pearl Jam fans to compare the merits of Yield (1998) and Riot Act (2002). Since the second half of the 90’s, it was too late for Pearl Jam : Goths, Rap-Metal or Néo-Punk made the canadian shirt (the symbol of Seattle scene’s golden years) looks odd. So little by little we got bored of this « lumberjack-grunge » , being so decomplexed on his americana influences that it became a sort of boy scout song that we can sing near a camp fire.

Then the groupe became the victim of his own pretention : First Pearl Jam sued Tickemaster (leaving the group diminished), then they had the idea that it would be great to record and sell each of their live shows. Nowadays it is as easy to buy a live CD from Pearl Jam as it is to buy a piece of wood or a tire.

Today, fully aware that their career has known « a sort of blackout » (as bassist Jeff Ament speaks) , the guys are now back in full form, thanks to their freshly-recorded « Pearl Jam » with producer Adam Kasper (the man behind PJ’s sound since Vs), wich puts an end to a 5 years creative abstinence.
« This is the first time that we got in the studio with such a motivation, despite the few song we had written at this point, jokes Eddie Vedder, we had nothing, exept the will to play together, to create together. Then the writting process went quite naturally, and the quality of the songs revealed that our artistic purposes were still pertinent. From the start it was reconforting to know that we were still able to write good songs. »

Dosed like all of his predecessors, « Pearl Jam » offers his bunch of angry and blindly engaged songs (comatose, army reserve) as well as folky ballads (severed hand, gone) ----believe it « folky » is the real term used here---- . The such nervous first single WWS is reminiscent of the 94’ classic « spin the black circle ». But globaly the sound and the mood of Pearl Jam remains the same, tainted with a certain pessimism. « I don’t know either if its more challenging to write songs today than 10 years ago with Pearl Jam, but what I know is that it is more challenging to live in this world than 10 years ago. Understand who we are in this world now is the real challenge. As the whole group is concerned, it deals with keeping on doing things that makes sense, and writing pertinent songs, like an echoe of the way we look at the world. And when i think about the broken lives of the american soldiers or civilians in Irak, when i think of the worldwide unbalance, or things that scandalizes me, it’s difficult not to be negative. I like to say that our songs lacks a little hope. We realized that during the recording process of the album. We are aware that our music won’t change the world, so if we succeed in making our own vision of the world evolve inside our music, it give us the strenght to go on… »


end of page one... page two to be delivered this evening, if you agree... :wink: [/b]


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here is the translation for page one, have a good reading, next page is for tonight (now i REALLY must go to work :wink: ). And xcuse for my bad english, but i think it all makes sense.... :oops:
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It made perfect sense ... thanks so much for your hard work!

... I had to laugh at the fact that the words "plaid" and "Canadian" are interchangeable - Vive Lumberjack Rock! ;)

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