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or the way it is now?...
everything and anything always anytime right here for your taking
and.............discuss!!
personally im torn...i love live pj and being able to purchase or download for free there shows but back in the day there was so much more excitement when you got to hear songs live or rarities/b-sides/demos/whatever...and now thats all lost...you can have pretty much whatever you want if you can google or if you know the right people online (pm me if you hav any unreleased s/t tracks)and thank god they mix up their setlists like they do otherwise we'd already know the show before we even went...so theres still a little mystery left but i kinda wish it was a bit more difficult to get your hands on pj music just to keep you guessing........like the 30+ songs that didn't make s/t...where are you dammit!!! im spoiled now as are most of us but i cant complain cause it is pj and in this case having more is definitely better...guess i answered my own question no need to post replies ive worked it out thanks
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Post subject: Re: $50 dollar hard to find boots...
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:47 pm
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Interesting thread...i'm too young to really relate to what you're saying...i've grown up with the internet age, so i'm used to being spoilt as such...but i can sympathise with what you're saying. It's hard to imagine that a band could maintain and run a fan club withou the help of the internet, yet PJ were doing it over 10 years ago, and bringing out xmas singles etc. It must have been exciting on a different level.
Another thing is the amount of videos you see, and people with camera phones during gigs...Whilst it's great to see some of these i do kind of miss days when you'd remember a show in your mind and not through a fuzzy 3cmx3cm screen. I wonder what the band thinks when they look out and just see a row of camera phones staring at them? Welcome to the 21st century concert audience, eh!
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While I absolutely love the idea that we can hear practically every song they've ever recorded or performed, I kind of understand the original poster's point. I'll never forget what it was like in the mid 90's to browse mom-and-pop record shops in the area to find bootlegs of either live shows or compilations and how much more valuable it made each bootleg sound.
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i rememebr bidding on a cd - i think the title was "pearl jam fan club b-sides and more " - and getting up to about $55 before i hit my limit. it went for about $80, i think. i was crushed, there were so many songs i hadn't heard because i didn't become a fan club member until about 1998.
i found it at a mom and pop store for $25 and was ecstatic. i must have burned at least 15 copies for friends.
two years later i solved the internet and now have a folder on my comptuer with at 150 "hard-to-find" tracks. i get pissed if i can't find the new stuff online in 5 minutes, when before i would go down the shore just to go the boardwalk and try and find a cool boot.
While I absolutely love the idea that we can hear practically every song they've ever recorded or performed, I kind of understand the original poster's point. I'll never forget what it was like in the mid 90's to browse mom-and-pop record shops in the area to find bootlegs of either live shows or compilations and how much more valuable it made each bootleg sound.
Yup.
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funny how a lot of threads reveal the same general tendency in us... we never are happy with what we have, we wish for something else, and upon receiving it, we wish for things to be different still.
it reminds me of that episode of Daria, when somehow, Daria and her sister end up in a plastic surgeon's office. The analyze Daria first, and estimate she'll need close to $20,000 worth of facial reconstructive surgery. The portrait they show her as looking like is actually very similar to her "attractive and cool" sister. Then they analyze the sister and estimate she'll need $10,000 worth of surgery. Which Daria wittily replies something to the extent of "I should pay you $20,000 to look like her, who needs $10,000 worth of surgery herself?"
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dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
While I absolutely love the idea that we can hear practically every song they've ever recorded or performed, I kind of understand the original poster's point. I'll never forget what it was like in the mid 90's to browse mom-and-pop record shops in the area to find bootlegs of either live shows or compilations and how much more valuable it made each bootleg sound.
absolutely! When PJ was the #1 band (91-95), I had a job driving around delivering business cards inthe Chicagoland area. I would pass dozens of the ma and pa shops on my route and each had different shows/boots/rarities so it would sometimes take days for me to decide which was the "better" one. The anticipation was great! Sometimes better than the purchase
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homersheineken wrote:
dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
While I absolutely love the idea that we can hear practically every song they've ever recorded or performed, I kind of understand the original poster's point. I'll never forget what it was like in the mid 90's to browse mom-and-pop record shops in the area to find bootlegs of either live shows or compilations and how much more valuable it made each bootleg sound.
absolutely! When PJ was the #1 band (91-95), I had a job driving around delivering business cards inthe Chicagoland area. I would pass dozens of the ma and pa shops on my route and each had different shows/boots/rarities so it would sometimes take days for me to decide which was the "better" one. The anticipation was great! Sometimes better than the purchase
the anticipation was almost always better since the sound was often sub-ar
The collector in me misses the exictment but I'd choose the cheapness and accessibilty any day.
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stip wrote:
homersheineken wrote:
dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
While I absolutely love the idea that we can hear practically every song they've ever recorded or performed, I kind of understand the original poster's point. I'll never forget what it was like in the mid 90's to browse mom-and-pop record shops in the area to find bootlegs of either live shows or compilations and how much more valuable it made each bootleg sound.
absolutely! When PJ was the #1 band (91-95), I had a job driving around delivering business cards inthe Chicagoland area. I would pass dozens of the ma and pa shops on my route and each had different shows/boots/rarities so it would sometimes take days for me to decide which was the "better" one. The anticipation was great! Sometimes better than the purchase
the anticipation was almost always better since the sound was often sub-ar
The collector in me misses the exictment but I'd choose the cheapness and accessibilty any day.
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stip wrote:
homersheineken wrote:
dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
While I absolutely love the idea that we can hear practically every song they've ever recorded or performed, I kind of understand the original poster's point. I'll never forget what it was like in the mid 90's to browse mom-and-pop record shops in the area to find bootlegs of either live shows or compilations and how much more valuable it made each bootleg sound.
absolutely! When PJ was the #1 band (91-95), I had a job driving around delivering business cards inthe Chicagoland area. I would pass dozens of the ma and pa shops on my route and each had different shows/boots/rarities so it would sometimes take days for me to decide which was the "better" one. The anticipation was great! Sometimes better than the purchase
the anticipation was almost always better since the sound was often sub-ar
The collector in me misses the exictment but I'd choose the cheapness and accessibilty any day.
I see what you're saying. I get a boot now and listen to it once usually. Back then i'd listen to it many times and even now I listen to alot of older boots more than new ones...
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I remember i always ordered catalogs from these ma an dpa stores all over the country. Found a good one in texas that always had great boots. Would always call up and have the guy pick a few boots and read me the setlists off the back. Aussie dynamos was the first boot i ever spent money on. And what a boot it was....
the "ma and pop" store near where I grew up was run by a bunch of assholes (well, a couple of them were cool).....I'm glad I don't have to give them $40-$50 for bootlegs anymore.
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62strat wrote:
I remember i always ordered catalogs from these ma an dpa stores all over the country. Found a good one in texas that always had great boots. Would always call up and have the guy pick a few boots and read me the setlists off the back. Aussie dynamos was the first boot i ever spent money on. And what a boot it was....
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Isaac Turner wrote:
62strat wrote:
I remember i always ordered catalogs from these ma an dpa stores all over the country. Found a good one in texas that always had great boots. Would always call up and have the guy pick a few boots and read me the setlists off the back. Aussie dynamos was the first boot i ever spent money on. And what a boot it was....
Soundwaves?
Dont remember, might have one of the catalogues at home though.
I always got a kick out of the way the guy pronounced tremor christ, with that texas accent.
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I thought Aussie Dynamos (a 3/17/95 boot) was the most awesome thing back when I bought it in the spring of '96. It was a fantastic bootleg, with vibrant artwork and a picture of Jack Irons on the kit. I loved it.
I paid like $50 for it and it was well worth it at the time. Since that time, the Internet has afforded me the official recording through unofficial means and it sounds even better. But still, I love the pictures on the disc and the artwork. And it was at a time when live Pearl Jam discs were at a premium. I still can't get over how well they played "Why Go," "Jeremy," and a few other classics that night. It was a phenomenal night I can tell.
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im spoiled now as are most of us but i cant complain cause it is pj and in this case having more is definitely better...guess i answered my own question no need to post replies ive worked it out thanks 
