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| Author: | warehouse [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SOTM: They've been closed to hide the flames.... |
Angus wrote: warehouse wrote: Angus wrote: cutuphalfdead wrote: Yeah there's a soundcheck version floating around fro Portugal 96 I believe.  Barcelona, Spain close enough Same distance as New Jersey -> Chicago. or camden -> philly depending on where you start |
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| Author: | Angus [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SOTM: They've been closed to hide the flames.... |
warehouse wrote: Angus wrote: warehouse wrote: Angus wrote: cutuphalfdead wrote: Yeah there's a soundcheck version floating around fro Portugal 96 I believe. Barcelona, Spain close enough Same distance as New Jersey -> Chicago. or camden -> philly depending on where you start I'm not sure I understand this post. |
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| Author: | warehouse [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SOTM: They've been closed to hide the flames.... |
Angus wrote: warehouse wrote: Angus wrote: warehouse wrote: Angus wrote: cutuphalfdead wrote: Yeah there's a soundcheck version floating around fro Portugal 96 I believe. Barcelona, Spain close enough Same distance as New Jersey -> Chicago. or camden -> philly depending on where you start I'm not sure I understand this post. im saying they are right next to each other, and every time pearl jam plays camden people say its "philly" b/c they are right next to each other. |
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| Author: | Angus [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SOTM: They've been closed to hide the flames.... |
warehouse wrote: Angus wrote: warehouse wrote: Angus wrote: warehouse wrote: Angus wrote: cutuphalfdead wrote: Yeah there's a soundcheck version floating around fro Portugal 96 I believe. Barcelona, Spain close enough Same distance as New Jersey -> Chicago. or camden -> philly depending on where you start I'm not sure I understand this post. im saying they are right next to each other, and every time pearl jam plays camden people say its "philly" b/c they are right next to each other. I know that. But how is that related to the distance between Cascais (south west of Portugal) and Barcelona (north east of Spain) being pretty big? (1300 km) Doesn't matter though. |
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| Author: | stip [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SOTM: They've been closed to hide the flames.... |
he's probably either making a joke about traffic or those being sprawling cities. |
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| Author: | bodysnatcher [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SOTM: They've been closed to hide the flames.... |
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| Author: | corduroy_blazer [ Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SOTM: They've been closed to hide the flames.... |
The studio version of this is 10/10 for me. |
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| Author: | liamdog7 [ Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SOTM: They've been closed to hide the flames.... |
I have never appreciated this song that much but just listening to it it's pretty cool. Maybe 3 or 4 but it doesn't floor me. I now see this track as part of a sad trilogy going from Hail Hail > Wishlist > Parting Ways. I've written before that I find Wishlist utterly miserable with Eddie not being able to live up to the expectations (of his wife?) and knowing it, him singing the song fully realising that it could never be. And that takes off from Hail Hail (I sometimes realize i could only be as good as you'll let me). And then Parting Ways where it's brought into the open and both parties accept the inevitable. I'm at work at the moment so I can't elaborate. |
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| Author: | VinylGuy [ Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SOTM: They've been closed to hide the flames.... |
liamdog7 wrote: I have never appreciated this song that much but just listening to it it's pretty cool. Maybe 3 or 4 but it doesn't floor me. I now see this track as part of a sad trilogy going from Hail Hail > Wishlist > Parting Ways. I've written before that I find Wishlist utterly miserable with Eddie not being able to live up to the expectations (of his wife?) and knowing it, him singing the song fully realising that it could never be. And that takes off from Hail Hail (I sometimes realize i could only be as good as you'll let me). And then Parting Ways where it's brought into the open and both parties accept the inevitable. I'm at work at the moment so I can't elaborate. great writing right here....i don´t think wishlist is a part of this "trilogy" but yeah Hail, Hail is for me the first part of this. Maybe "u" is the first actually and hail hail is the second...that line, I sometimes realize i could only be as good as you'll let me, is so powerful, so true and honest...and "Are you woman enough to be my man?" is about that too...can you be as supportive and caring as me? can you take this relationship and fight for it not against it? Parting Ways feels like the next chapter, the battle is already over and they are still together, but they both know is over. Is about not finding the courage to finish the relationship but actually none of them is fighting for it. The ending of the song, with the strings and ed singing the drifting away line...amazing. |
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| Author: | liamdog7 [ Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SOTM: They've been closed to hide the flames.... |
VinylGuy wrote: liamdog7 wrote: I have never appreciated this song that much but just listening to it it's pretty cool. Maybe 3 or 4 but it doesn't floor me. I now see this track as part of a sad trilogy going from Hail Hail > Wishlist > Parting Ways. I've written before that I find Wishlist utterly miserable with Eddie not being able to live up to the expectations (of his wife?) and knowing it, him singing the song fully realising that it could never be. And that takes off from Hail Hail (I sometimes realize i could only be as good as you'll let me). And then Parting Ways where it's brought into the open and both parties accept the inevitable. I'm at work at the moment so I can't elaborate. great writing right here....i don´t think wishlist is a part of this "trilogy" but yeah Hail, Hail is for me the first part of this. Maybe "u" is the first actually and hail hail is the second...that line, I sometimes realize i could only be as good as you'll let me, is so powerful, so true and honest...and "Are you woman enough to be my man?" is about that too...can you be as supportive and caring as me? can you take this relationship and fight for it not against it? Parting Ways feels like the next chapter, the battle is already over and they are still together, but they both know is over. Is about not finding the courage to finish the relationship but actually none of them is fighting for it. The ending of the song, with the strings and ed singing the drifting away line...amazing. definitely. And I can see that You fits in too. But I still think that Wishlist isn't the happy positive song that it appears. I believe the "I sometimes realize i could only be as good as you'll let me" line from Hail Hail echoes through Wishlist. In fact I think that line may be the single most important and personal line that Ed has ever written. I think that the influenece of Beth is all over Eddie throughout the first 5 albums and also with some of the politics/decisions of the band (read ED). |
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