Was Stone the problem?

Dave and Eddie didn't get along

probably because Dave touches Stone's nuts, jealousy is a terrible thing

Kim cut his arm off.

funny picture, beer and junk food. niiice

I just woke up, so bare with me...

In Place/Date there is a pic of Eddie and Beth in better days...it's b&w, but isn't that the same room?

Anybody got a place/date of that pic?

Stone's nuts are those of a golden god.

Dave wanted to be a Grunge God! All the other guys just wanted to be Rock Stars.

I've always loved that photo.

YOU! YES, YOU! YOU BEHIND THE BIKE SHED! STANNNNNNNNNND STILL LADDY!

Because Slayer needed the drum tracks for Hell Awaits.

"Rock Stars?, fuck Rock Stars..." EV

thats some party....M&Ms, beer, doritos and sun chips!

this was a rare momemt when ed fell victim to LSD(lead singer diseases) and the band fired the drummer because ed did not like him.

Dave was an excelent drummer but i think he wouldnt "fit" in PJ nowadays...

word on the street is cause he was on a pj message board and started a thread, which drummer do you think is the best

Dave's drumming was too good to garner the indie street cred that Ed so desperately craved.

Wonderful picture, thanks.

I wonder if Stone supported Dave during the breakup, because Dave sure appears to have supported Stone back in the day.

From Spin Magazine, August 2001:

O'Brien: And Dave Abbruszzese for whatever reason, he and Eddie didn't get along.

Abbruzzese: I felt like there was a time when I had a good friendship with that guy. And then all of a sudden I didn't know him. But I understand - shit, if I was freaking out about stuff and having the hell he was going through. I give it up to him just for surviving it.

Ament: Also, with Dave, musically, when you'd say, "I want this to sound more like the Buzzcocks," I don't think he related to that at all. He was a technical guy, and we all played by feeling or by seeing bands.

Gossard: It was the nature of how the politics worked in the band: It was up to me to say, "Hey, we tried, it's not working; time to move on."

Abbruzzese: Stone showed up as a man, and as a good friend. I hope to one day tell him how much I appreciated [that].
I had just soured. I didn't really agree with what was going on. I didn't agree with the Ticketmaster stuff at all. But I don't blame anyone or harbor any hard feelings. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't furious and hurt for a long time. But now I just wish there was more music from the band I was a part of.


Abbruzzese also said earlier in the piece of the same year: Stone would kind of be the bridge of everyone's gap. When he stopped taking that role, the music changed, and [the band] became a less communicative, more whispery place.

Agreed.

Nice article just_b.

Dave was better looking than Stone...and Eddie. Ed and Stone couldn't stand the thought of it (and they really couldn't take that damn mirror, mirror on the wall telling them so every day), so they got a poisoned red apple that would make him sleep until Dave was awakened by love's first kiss, but Dave refused to eat the apple saying that it didn't have enough trans fats in it, unlike Zingers. So, they had to fire him. And that is the true story of why Dave was fired.