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Times of Trouble by Temple of The Dog has the same music as Footsteps by PJ. I've been a fan my whole life and I just made this discovery today. I hadn't heard Times of Trouble before...
Had you (other PJ fans) known this?
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Legend has it that Stone wrote the music to this song and Ed and Chris Cornell got hold of it at about the same time. It's a very interesting thing to look at, since two very talented song writers came up with very, very different songs from a single piece of music.
Of course, I'd take "Footsteps" first any day of the week.
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As much as I love Footsteps, I'd probably take TOT over it. Lyrically, it resonates more with me than Footsteps and musically, I think it's an overall better song.
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ThumbingMyWayToNFLD wrote:
As much as I love Footsteps, I'd probably take TOT over it. Lyrically, it resonates more with me than Footsteps and musically, I think it's an overall better song.
I agree. Footsteps is beautiful and simple, but I think Cornell did a lot more with the song. Especially that ending...
But if somebody left you out on a ledge
If somebody pushed you over the edge
If somebody loved you and left you for dead
You got to hold on to your time till you break
Through these times of trouble
I had TOTD back in 1992, but then I didn't listen to it for several years at one point. By the time I heard it again I was very familiar with Footsteps, so I didn't figure it out until relatively late myself (although it was still probably almost 10 years ago).
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punkdavid wrote:
ThumbingMyWayToNFLD wrote:
As much as I love Footsteps, I'd probably take TOT over it. Lyrically, it resonates more with me than Footsteps and musically, I think it's an overall better song.
I agree. Footsteps is beautiful and simple, but I think Cornell did a lot more with the song. Especially that ending...
But if somebody left you out on a ledge If somebody pushed you over the edge If somebody loved you and left you for dead You got to hold on to your time till you break Through these times of trouble
I had TOTD back in 1992, but then I didn't listen to it for several years at one point. By the time I heard it again I was very familiar with Footsteps, so I didn't figure it out until relatively late myself (although it was still probably almost 10 years ago).
I had the same experience and agree completley. The music on footsteps is pretty good but it is amazing on ToT. My favorite song on Temple of the Dog.
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Chris Cornell wrote better lyrics, there's no escaping that... but something about "I got scratches all over my arms/ one for each day since I fell apart." just gets to me every time. Give me Footsteps.
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times of trouble is a really superb song, everything chris does on it, the emotion, the desperation gets me everytime. I find footsteps to be rather mediocre. I like it, but Times of trouble has a much more special place in my heart.
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I'd probably side with TOT too. It's one of my favs off TOTD's album. Footsteps is amazing though and for being the same music, they are very very different and have completely different atmospheres.
I like the simplicity of Footsteps. I really makes me feel like there's a guy alone in a jail cell...I think the Lost Dogs harmonica version cheapens that feeling a little.
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tree_ wrote:
Times of Trouble by Temple of The Dog has the same music as Footsteps by PJ. I've been a fan my whole life and I just made this discovery today. I hadn't heard Times of Trouble before...
Had you (other PJ fans) known this?
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punkdavid wrote:
Especially that ending...
But if somebody left you out on a ledge If somebody pushed you over the edge If somebody loved you and left you for dead You got to hold on to your time till you break Through these times of trouble
Agreed. Cornell's delivery on that section is nothing short of perfect.
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tree_ wrote:
Bammer wrote:
*resident frat dick*
I was about to post that
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