If Ten, VS and Vitalogy were released today, 06', 08' and 09' respectivly, rather than 91', 93' and 94', do you think they would have the same impact they had back then? Was it because of the movement that was going on in music? Was it the freshness? Or would it stand up the same?

We would have to also go under the assumption that they would be a new band and anything that has happened the last sixteen yrs is wiped away. Record sales probably wouldn't factor in quite as much as back then considering the internet etc, but would these be top selling albums now? Would they still impact the general public and devoted fans as they did at that time?

Merry Christmas and all that......thanks for responding.

Creed rip off!

i bet no one would call them "grunge"

nickelback

as far as the general public went...i firmly believe, or at least im getting to tha tpoint, that the only reason VS and vitalogy sold so well was because it was a pearl jam album. Since thats usually how the mainstream, mass population operates. They were riding the wave of TEN for a few years.

that depends--if the pearl jam clones are still around I don't know how that woudl change things. Provided they actually marketed those records , made videos, etc they'd do fine because they are such a great selection of songs, but they wouldn't be quite as revolutionary as they were Too much time has passed by

lyrically- yes. there's no talking away the emotional impact they have to me. Musically- meh I most likely wouldn't consider them like I did back in '92.

The records would sell about 100 million each because there had been no records released for the past 15 years.

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I think you could make that argument for Vitology, but Vs. was on par with Ten in terms of mainstream appeal. Vitology had Betterman and NFY, but this was also the album where they were showing a definite shift towards something different (or evolutionary). In the end, Vitology, as a whole, was much more commercially challenging than Vs. was. Personally, songs like Tremor Christ are far better than, say, Go or Animal. Then again, it's the catchy hooks in a song that the mainstream grabs ahold of (such as in Daughter).

This is a great question, but I believe impossible to answer- PJ had such a significant impact on future record company decisions ie. STP, Creed, Silverchair, which then mutated into other crap which is how we now have Three Doors Down, Nickelback , Hinder and the like popular-PJ broke down doors for them-so without PJ, who would have really followed them?

the big three killed my baby

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big three=no code, yield, binaural

not for sales



They were great albums too

what I've always been curious about is how well those latter two would have sold if they had been promoted. What if there were videos for betterman, corduroy, nothingman, RVM, elderly woman, yellow ledbetter, black, etc. What is remarkable about these songs is that their success happened without the most important promotional tool of the 90's.

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I hate Nickelback with a passion. They sound like everyone is playing in their first garage band, but with a good producer

J.

That's pretty crazy to think about. I forget that after Ten they really didn't do much promotion.

A video for Betterman or Corduroy or Daughter would have made them literally explode I think.

i often think this..and my answer is there is no way those albums wuold be ignored. they are too good, too many good songs