I've never heard Last Soldier.
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| Author: | stip [ Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:00 pm ] |
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Last Solider vs. Army Reserve Last Soldier My number's up My time has come Sounds like they're playin' my song On the altar, my picture... Will be there while i'm gone There'll be time for laughin' There's no time to cry Soon i will be leavin' Look me in the eye No matter what's in front of me It's your face that i'll see And the future of our young ones Yeah this is what fuels me There's no time for laughin' There's no time to cry Soon i will be leavin' Look me in the eye The oath i took not so seriously The world's gathered steam and caught up with me And my decision's been made, from some other place By someone i don't know and they don't know me This is no time for laughin' There's no time to cry Soon i will be leavin' Look me in the eye Army Reserve How long must she stand Before the ground, it gives way To an endless fall She can feel this War on her face Stars on her pillow Folding in darkness Begging for slumber I'm not blind I can see it coming Looks like lightning In my child's eye I'm not frantic I can feel it coming Violently shakes My body Her son's slanted Always giving her The sideways eye An empty chair where dad sits How loud can silence get? And mom, she reassures To contain him But it's becoming a lie She tells herself And everyone else Father is risking His life for our freedoms I'm not blind I can see it coming Looks like lightning In my childs eye I'm not frantic I can feel it coming Darling you'll save me If you save yourself Previous The Best… 1.existential album closer 2. failing love song 3.seize the day song 4. anti-war song 5. song for unrequited love 6. song for a father 7. guitar solo 8. song about getting away 9.political call to arms 10. song for a blown love 10. Surf Song 11. Song about religious faith 12. song to define the band 13. search for personal contenment 14. song about being in love 15.song about temptation 16. song about coping with death |
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| Author: | stip [ Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:01 pm ] |
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This is very close. Two very well crafted songs Last Soldier first. The stripped down, folksy quality to the music works well with the subject matter. The song is about trying to forestall panic, to make light of a world shattering event (getting called up to go to war). The singer is trying to relax his loved ones and too much tension in the music would undermine that. Instead the tension needs to be subtle, and is delivered nicely through the lyrics I’m not sure if Mike wrote the lyrics too (I’m guessing this is Ed) but whoever did really penned a powerful song. What I really love is the sense of calm amidst rising pressure. The singer has no control over what’s happening to him, and is trying to resign himself to his fate (my number’s up, my time has come, sound’s like their playing my song) and suppress the frustration and sense of powerlessness (and my decision’s been made from some other place by someone I don’t know and they don’t know me / not taking the oath to enlist so seriously, thinking that he’d never actually have to leave) for the benefit of their loved one(s). Instead the focus is on privileging those last few moments together. The fear and the sadness can come later. What really matters is right now, because as soon as it is gone all that is left is the picture on the alter (a slightly more foreboding image in the aftermath of World Wide Suicide). From the moment I heard it I looked at Army Reserve as a sequel to last solider. LS was sung from the perspective of the solider. Army Reserve bounces back and forth between the solider and the family left behind. Musically this song is one of the best things to come off of avocado. It twists in on itself and creates fantastic tension without ever actually getting melodramatic, and colors the song perfectly. And the lyrics that Ed wrote are just fantastic. The way the woman barely holds herself together, trying to be strong for the sake of her children who miss their father and resent his absence. In particular the desperate way she also tries to convince herself that her husband’s absence has value is moving. It is some of the most pointed political commentary on S/T, and works so well because it is so subtle. She HAS to believe that he is fighting for a cause, even though the tone of the song makes it clear that this is something she is forced to convince herself of, not something that comes natural. The tragedy is that the sacrifice is not one that has value or needed to be made. Where the song falls apart a bit for me is with the chorus, the part written by Echols. I make sense of it by shifting the perspective to the husband thinking about the possibility of his upcoming death (I see it as an immediate, life flashing before the eyes moment but it doesn’t have to be) and trying desperately to focus on his memories of his child. But it doesn’t quite work. There is something slightly awkward about the delivery that takes me out of the song. I’m not quite sure what it is Ed does a great job vocally with this song during the verses, conveying the worried desperation and false confidence of the wife/mother beautifully. It is impossible not to feel what she is feeling. But even though there is passion during the chorus it somehow feels a bit rote. He is injecting it because he thinks it should be passionate, but there isn’t genuine feeling there, or at least, it doesn’t match the feel of the song. This is a very tough call. Lyrically they both are excellent, and Eddie does a great job on both. Musically Army Reserve is stronger, but it also has that troublesome chorus. I think I’m going to vote can’t decide for the first time Also, World Wide Suicide is not included here since it is about someone coping with the known death of a solider. These two songs deal more with the anxiety of having loved ones away and not knowing what is happening to them. |
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| Author: | conoalias [ Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:02 pm ] |
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Army Reserve is probably my favorite PJ song of this decade, so AR it is. |
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| Author: | Angus [ Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:02 pm ] |
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Last Soldier because the lyrics are more vague. I'm from a country that doesn't go to war, so I don't really need these songs. |
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| Author: | stip [ Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:04 pm ] |
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Angus wrote: Last Soldier because the lyrics are more vague. I'm from a country that doesn't go to war *, so I don't really need these songs.
* anymore |
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| Author: | BadRadio16 [ Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:22 pm ] |
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I always thought of Come Back as a song about someone dealing with a soldier away at war, but that's just my personal interpretation. I went with Army Reserve, but I really don't love either of these songs. I was at the Bridge show when they played Last Soldier and I Am Mine for the first time and I remember thinking that I'd much rather see them put out I Am Mine on a record than Las Soldier. Army Reserve is good, but it desperately needs a bridge or at least another verse. It just feels unfinished to me. I know there are people here that absolutely love both of these songs so I am eager to see what they have to say. |
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| Author: | dirtyfrank0705 [ Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:24 pm ] |
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Last Soldier. That second verse just brings about so much emotion in me; I couldn't imagine having to be in the narrator's frame of mind. I won't go into too much detail -- I'm saving that for when it's the SOTM. I like Army Reserve but it just doesn't compare. |
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| Author: | BadRadio16 [ Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:29 pm ] |
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I just read the lyrics to Last Soldier and they are fantastic. Still not sold on the actual song though. |
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| Author: | pearljamfan80 [ Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:06 am ] |
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I've never heard Last Soldier.
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| Author: | 62strat [ Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:24 am ] |
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mike wrote either the verse and ed wrote the chorus, or vice versa. Last soldier is a great tune and is a little bit more eloncholy and sad where as Army reserve has a bit more bitterness and anger. Ill go with last soldier, raelly captured the feelings post 9/11 as well. |
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| Author: | BadRadio16 [ Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:56 am ] |
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pearljamfan80 wrote: I've never heard Last Soldier. I can send it to you if you'd like. 
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| Author: | pearljamfan80 [ Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:59 am ] |
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BadRadio16 wrote: pearljamfan80 wrote: I've never heard Last Soldier. I can send it to you if you'd like. this would be much appreciated.
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| Author: | BadRadio16 [ Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:08 am ] |
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What's the best way for me to send it to you? |
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| Author: | pearljamfan80 [ Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:08 am ] |
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BadRadio16 wrote: What's the best way for me to send it to you?
PM |
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| Author: | I Got Memories [ Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:33 am ] |
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I love both of these songs, lyrically both are excellent, musically AR is better (it has that crowded house quality about it) and the delivery, in both, from Ed is great. My vote goes to Last Soldier, just. |
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| Author: | sergeant [ Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:39 am ] |
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i've never heard last soldier, and although i admire the lyrics of army reserve, musically it does absolutely nothing for me and i have always considered it one of the weak points of avocado. |
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| Author: | Evvo [ Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:59 am ] |
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light_years62103 wrote: i've never heard last soldier, and although i admire the lyrics of army reserve, musically it does absolutely nothing for me and i have always considered it one of the weak points of avocado.
you stole my answer!! 
anyone willing to hook me up with Last Soldier?? I'd greatly appreciate it. |
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| Author: | BadRadio16 [ Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:44 am ] |
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For all of those who don't have Last Soldier: if you go to the songbook section of TSIS and look up Last Soldier you can get the live MP3 from there. |
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| Author: | manofgoldenwords25 [ Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:50 am ] |
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last soldier is the reason i bought a capo and started playing the harmonica...among other things |
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| Author: | Mecca [ Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:33 pm ] |
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Army Reserve just isn't good to me |
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