Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:05 am Posts: 8045 Location: Arlington Heights, IL Gender: Male
So I was reading through the Lost Dogs booklet yesterday when i came upon the Brother page. And to me it seems like there was some sort of controversy. And I was wondering if anyone knows what it was about.
Mike: This song caused an argument between jeff and stone back in the day. i put guitars all over it cause ed asked me to.
Jeff: I fricking loved this stone riff in 1991...in fact, when stone said he was over it and didn't want to play it anymore, i nearly qiut the band(what a fucking baby i was)
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um... you basically answered your own question. jeff really liked the song, stone stopped liking it, jeff got pissed and had to go cool off. eddie didn't like his lyrics, so rather than write new ones for LD he told mike to go off on it. just your average band argument.
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Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:05 am Posts: 8045 Location: Arlington Heights, IL Gender: Male
I see. I thought when jeff said "stone was over it", he meant that stone was over the argument, not over the song. But looking at it that way makes sense
"Brother" (instrumental): An early candidate for "Ten," having made it as far as the rough mix of the album sent to Epic executives. The song disappeared from the Pearl Jam canon shortly thereafter and is presented here as an instrumental.
McCready: Well, "Brother" was a big point of contention between [guitarist] Stone [Gossard] and [bassist] Jeff [Ament]. I remember Jeff really loving it and Stone either not liking it or being indifferent about it. Jeff and Stone were arguing a lot about this song and were kind of mad at each other. Jeff got so pissed he went off and started dunking basketballs. It was like, "What's up, dude?" He got really pissed. He related this story to me recently.
It was the typical Stone goes one way/Jeff goes the other. That is just how they work. They have been together forever and the dynamic between the two of them makes things work. There was a big, heated argument. But I thought it was a cool song with a cool vibe. It may have been an example of mid-tempo-itis. I recall the big argument between the two. Jeff said it was almost like he was going to quit. It was serious sh*t. When it came back up recently, they didn't argue, but it was kind of a reliving in a way smaller way. Stone was still not into it. Ed didn't really like the original lyrics. He was like, "Hey man, if you want, go in and put some guitar stuff on it." I didn't have really any idea what to do, but I went down and listened to it and thought I'd do some Brian May-style layered guitars on it. I guess this is a final chapter and a lyrical burial.
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I really like it the way it was on lost dogs. I never cared much for the song with the lyrics. It sounded decent but more like a stereotypical grunge song.
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Joined: Wed Feb 02, 2005 1:54 am Posts: 55 Location: Georgia Gender: Male
I love the one with words. I think it's a great song! Took me a few listens before I warmed up to it, but then found myself hearing it in my head, wanting to hear it more. It's really catchy in my opinion. It ROCKS. Love it.
..Am I the only one who really digs the original??
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It was hearing Brother for the first time back in the summer of 97 that turned me from a big pearl jam fan into a total pearl jam freak. Yeah, I dig the song.
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It's all right every now and then. I don't miss it on ten but I would have liked to see it with vocals on lost dogs. Just a girl is a better missing song
I like it.. i wonder when the last time they played it live was. had to be over 10 years ago.
i also like Just A Girl. i wish these two songs got a little more exposure back in the day.
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