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my thoughts are that riot act is what, about 50 minutes, 3 outtakes about 15 more minutes.......add them all to the alternate version, even the shortest blank disks are like 74 minutes.......it will fit
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jlvsprljam wrote:
my thoughts are that riot act is what, about 50 minutes, 3 outtakes about 15 more minutes.......add them all to the alternate version, even the shortest blank disks are like 74 minutes.......it will fit
Yeah they'd all fit, but Help, Help and Ghost will still suck.
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At first I really didnt like Help Help at all, but the more i listen to it and more i listen to the live version, the more i like it. But Down and Undone are definitely better than a couple of songs on Riot Act.
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yeah, im not a fan of either bushleaguer or help help in the studio. but bushleaguer kicks ass live, one thing i hate about the studio version is eds talking, he sounds fucking lazy as hell, i hate it.
undone should be on there, and down. but i would keep get right, and ghost. im not big on LBC either. and i think otherside was a riot act outtake right?
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owen meany wrote:
jlvsprljam wrote:
my thoughts are that riot act is what, about 50 minutes, 3 outtakes about 15 more minutes.......add them all to the alternate version, even the shortest blank disks are like 74 minutes.......it will fit
Yeah they'd all fit, but Help, Help and Ghost will still suck.
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Too Big a Man Too Say wrote:
At first I really didnt like Help Help at all, but the more i listen to it and more i listen to the live version, the more i like it. But Down and Undone are definitely better than a couple of songs on Riot Act.
Yeah, hearing Help,Help at Detroit 1 last year really changed my perspective on this song. Now I love it.
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 3:39 am Posts: 39 Location: Mesa, AZ
The only Riot Act song that's never appealed to me is "Cropduster"- though I'd never redo the album. "Down" wouldn't fit on Riot Act, it's a great song but it just doesn't go with Riot Act to me, same with "Undone."
"Ghost" has been a favorite of mine as of late, it has such a unique mood..."Help Help" as a song doesn't do a lot for me, but the "the man they call my enemy, I've seen his eyes he looks just like me" line is one of the defining moments in Riot Act for me. Maybe I just have a thing for Jeff Ament songs.
So, yeah, I'd make no changes to Riot Act- tacking on songs would just make it crowded.
This thread is painful. My favorites off Riot act are exactly what you cut, Cropduster , my favorite Ghost, Get right and i can't remeber but i hope you didn't cut half full.
Thats the shit for the diehards right there,
Heres my cuts -lbc for starters, tmw and you are. Add otherside/undone. Might make it more consistant.
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Wasn't otherside a riot out b side? I love that song more so then undone and down. I would have loved to have that on the album instead of maybe LBC...
I have always liked ghost, but I too did not care for Help help much until i heard a live version and it really grew on me.
my thoughts are that riot act is what, about 50 minutes, 3 outtakes about 15 more minutes.......add them all to the alternate version, even the shortest blank disks are like 74 minutes.......it will fit
It doesn't flow well at that length.
owen meany wrote:
Yeah they'd all fit, but Help, Help and Ghost will still suck.
No.
Glad I could clear you up on that.
I can't figure how all these alternate RAs I've seen have included Save You. SY is cool, but it's the one song on that record that thematically does not fit with the rest.
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