I think its time for the to put out a compilation cd called "The Pledge of a Grievance"...and it would go a little something like this:

1. Long Road
2. Love Boat Captain
3. Comatose
4. Marker in the Sand
5. World Wide Suicide
6. Grievance
7. Insignificance
8. Do the Evolution (with "Indians" changed to "Iraqis")
9. Soon Forget
10. Bu$hleaguer
11. Green Disease
12. Unemplyable
13. Down
14. Undone
15. Indifference

hidden tracks: Master of War and Patriot

i'll buy it

Right, because fans who disagree with their politics aren't allowed to enjoy the music right?

And how are Long Road and Love Boat Captain political?

Long Road is a sombering reminder for all those (both american and middle eastern) who have died during these last 5 years.

"All you need is love" has been a rally cry against war and death since the Beatles popularized it. LBC is not just about Denmark

I was wondering the same thing...

and Down?

yuup
this post is the best so far.

Down? It's Howard Zinn for one. "You can't be nuetral on a moving train" is a call to action. If hope can grow from dirt like me" is Ed's optimism that things can and will change

Yeah, calling Long Road, LBC, and Indifference "political" is stretching it a lot. Who are these fans that disagree with the politcal statements made in any of those songs, anyway? I know some people often say they hate Eddie's "speeches" but the songs? Who supports war, greed, corrupt corporations, and religous intolerance? I'm just saying I've rarely seen anyone who's a fan disagree with the songs just the band.

I'm so pissed at all this political ruckus that I started... I'm done with this, let me just say that I'm cool with Eddie's politics but not cool with how some fans react to those who think differently.


And except for Bushleaguer (which is just a crappy song), this would be a great CD

Peace, that's it, I'm out.

Just because the song quotes Howard Zinn does not make it political. That quote isn't strictly about a call to political action. It's a call to action in one's life. That song is more about personal change then societal.

And what about LBC and Long Road?

For the record, I like PJ's professing their politics in their songs. I agree with most of them. I think it is a stretch to starting thinking that all their songs are political.

Then again, Ed thinks that Betterman is political now. Who else thinks that besides him?

In the right context (ie the grienvance cd) they are all political stances and/or a call to make a change. "How much difference can you make"

I think politics and music should never be meshed.

Eddie abuses his status.

Music is suppose to be an escape from this bullshit world,
we don't need our favourite band reminding us how fucked up everything is !!!

Anything can mean anything in a certain context. What the hell?

I find it very strange that someone who only wants escapism would ever be interested in Pearl Jam in the first place. I mean, they've been about reminding us about "this bullshit world" from the get-go.

I think Ed's comment about seeing the same bullshit behavior witnessed by adults as a child (Betterman) is much like seeing it in a larger scale as an adult with governments (WWS) is a great observation and dead on.

I think the analogy of sticking in an abusive relationship was really good, too. I never said it wasn't.

I'm just saying...Betterman is not about that in anyone's mind. Nobody thinks about that when they listen to Betterman. Ed was saying that the meaning of the song somehow changed after 2004. It didn't to anyone but him.

It's fine to think of things outside the box and think of things in new light.

Nobody started thinking about Betterman being a political song, though.

That's the problem. People do need their favorite bands discussing these issues...and their polititians...and their teachers...and their parents....and their favorite atheletes. Maybe if everyone spent more time discussing this bullshit world (the war, Darfur, poverty, child abuse, etc..) , and less time on Paris Hilton, Baseball, and whether or not Superman is gay...some of the bullshit world could be alleviated...then you can go back to listening to music about Rock-n- Rolling all night and Partying everyday

ok this is the new best post in the thread.

Long Road, Love Boat Captain, Marker in the Sand, and Indifference are political?

How about WMA, Glorified G, Leavin' Here, Yellow Ledbetter, Life Wasted, and Army Reserve?

Infinite covers also available.

What should never be meshed is politics and religion... Burying your head in the sand does not make everything go away. It is courageous to call attention to these things. It is great that it can be done in such a medium where we are inclined to listen.

This is one of the things I love about the band and music and one thing that I like telling other people about. I wish more people in the world who had a forum like PJ do would use it this way (and I am not talking about a political rally at a show, but using a show to raise awareness).