I would have to say so after listening to the new songs. This band has songs with straight up rock hooks (a la AC/DC), old time R&B (a la Otis Redding), punk. The songs off the new album are so different, yet so cool. There sound has expanded so much since they have started. For most bands, this would be a dagger in their career...for Pearl Jam, it allows them to progress and become better musicians. I'm totally blown away by their new songs (well, most of them anyways).
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Other than Worldwide Suicide, I have yet to listen to the other new album tracks. I'm gonna bet though that they're still not as diverse as Ben Harper's catalog.
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stevep522 wrote:
Other than Worldwide Suicide, I have yet to listen to the other new album tracks. I'm gonna bet though that they're still not as diverse as Ben Harper's catalog.
Just my 2 cents.
Ben Harper is hard to compete with in this category, but this is a very diverse pj album, even compared to the previous ones, imo.
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Sandler wrote:
, but this is a very diverse pj album, even compared to the previous ones, imo.
it is--and for a straight up rock band there aren't many acts with PJ's diversity
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Other than Worldwide Suicide, I have yet to listen to the other new album tracks. I'm gonna bet though that they're still not as diverse as Ben Harper's catalog.
Just my 2 cents.
I have much respect for Ben Harper overall... but listen to Comatose then put on Come Back.... doesn't get much more diverse than that.
PJ as the most diverse band is hghlt arguable. But, is diverse good?
I haven't the new album except for three tracks but why is diverse good? PJ is passable as a punk band but is that a good thing. Maybe there's a reason that punk music isn't that popular. Is playing punk songs a good idea when you have Mike McCready as a guitarist?
Look at Down, the little reggae influnced breakdown in the song is diverse but it is also the worse part of the song. Matt may be a good drummer but I don't think a proper dub feel and beat is really within his arsenal.
Pink Floyd = not diverse = great band
Led Zeppelin = not diverse = great band
Is playing punk songs a good idea when you have Mike McCready as a guitarist? Look at Down, the little reggae influnced breakdown in the song is diverse but it is also the worse part of the song.
Mike is arguably the most "punk" memeber in the group and the end of Down is the best part, "hey na na na."
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PJ as the most diverse band is hghlt arguable. But, is diverse good? I haven't the new album except for three tracks but why is diverse good? PJ is passable as a punk band but is that a good thing. Maybe there's a reason that punk music isn't that popular. Is playing punk songs a good idea when you have Mike McCready as a guitarist? Look at Down, the little reggae influnced breakdown in the song is diverse but it is also the worse part of the song. Matt may be a good drummer but I don't think a proper dub feel and beat is really within his arsenal. Pink Floyd = not diverse = great band Led Zeppelin = not diverse = great band
PJ punk is not punk. Yeah it is a lot of power chords, but there are alos lots of changes and musicianship that "normal" punk doesn't have.
So yes, diverse is very good in regards to PJ. Sameness is boring to me.
PJ punk is not punk. Yeah it is a lot of power chords, but there are alos lots of changes and musicianship that "normal" punk doesn't have.
So yes, diverse is very good in regards to PJ. Sameness is boring to me.
So would you be happy if they put out a disco or dance song? That would be diverse. How about if they taught Boom how to DJ on songs he's not currently playing on, that would be diverse.
There are great bands that are not diverse. Diverse does not equal great. Diverse can be good depending on the band and it can also kill the flow of an album.
Ben Harper = good diverse
some Rolling Stones stuff = bad diverse, did they really need to go disco??? Even Keef Richards hates their psychedelic era.
PJ as the most diverse band is hghlt arguable. But, is diverse good? I haven't the new album except for three tracks but why is diverse good? PJ is passable as a punk band but is that a good thing. Maybe there's a reason that punk music isn't that popular. Is playing punk songs a good idea when you have Mike McCready as a guitarist? Look at Down, the little reggae influnced breakdown in the song is diverse but it is also the worse part of the song. Matt may be a good drummer but I don't think a proper dub feel and beat is really within his arsenal. Pink Floyd = not diverse = great band Led Zeppelin = not diverse = great band
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Diverse as in they can rock your balls off with one song and then make you cry with the next? Yes. That they are.
But, all of their stuff falls under guitar rock. Doesn't really stray from there.
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"Look at Down, the little reggae influnced breakdown in the song is diverse but it is also the worse part of the song. Matt may be a good drummer but I don't think a proper dub feel and beat is really within his arsenal. "
Its the best part of the song IMHO....for a band like this, it is great. They encompass alot of different styles of rock music that I really enjoy and the different styles are not taking away from the new songs at all. They are a refreshing change from the last group of songs we got off of Riot Act (not saying its a terrible album btw)
PJ as the most diverse band is hghlt arguable. But, is diverse good? I haven't the new album except for three tracks but why is diverse good? PJ is passable as a punk band but is that a good thing. Maybe there's a reason that punk music isn't that popular. Is playing punk songs a good idea when you have Mike McCready as a guitarist? Look at Down, the little reggae influnced breakdown in the song is diverse but it is also the worse part of the song. Matt may be a good drummer but I don't think a proper dub feel and beat is really within his arsenal. Pink Floyd = not diverse = great band Led Zeppelin = not diverse = great band
Can't say that Zeppelin aren't diverse.
My thoughts exactly...they were a very diverse rock band!
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Soulfire wrote:
stevep522 wrote:
Other than Worldwide Suicide, I have yet to listen to the other new album tracks. I'm gonna bet though that they're still not as diverse as Ben Harper's catalog.
Just my 2 cents.
I have much respect for Ben Harper overall... but listen to Comatose then put on Come Back.... doesn't get much more diverse than that.
Someone should bump this thread once May 2nd comes around. I'm waiting until then before I hear the new tracks. I'll be curious to hear how diverse the new PJ album is.
Just knowing Ben Harper though, it seems pretty tough to get much different than going from Oppression to Mama's Got a Girlfriend to Power of the Gospel to Engraved Invitation. Granted, they're not all from the same album, but still...
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