it really is the most embarrasing shit ive ever heard one of my favourite bands do. crap music. embarrasingly childish lyrics that would have sent a chill down the spine at even a fucking communist party rally, and a band sitting side of the stage without the fucking balls to say how shit it is. everybody i know who has heard has literally chringed and asked me to turn it off. how has the bands quality control got to this point?

Could we ban the RM user 'noi' forever?

what have i done wrong now? disliked a song, and put it up for discussion on a DISCUSSION forum? fuck off man, i dont need that shit. how about an opinion on the song? actually your name says it all, forget it.

actually, at least youve got something from a ween video as your avatar, though i suspect you didnt know.

I actually really like it, don’t necessarily agree with anti war anthems but i respect it. Watch Body of War and maybe you will get a different angle and appreciation of who the song was written for.

thats a very bad way to judge a piece of art or song. so that makes speak the hungarian rapper good does it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--Vaz9jW054

it's an EV protest song with his guitar only. the rest of the band has nothing to do with it. He sang it live in Mansfield last year - the crowd sang along and cheered for it. So you are wrong.

some idiots were shouting "fuck you eddie!" near me though.

what im wrong that everyone ive played a performance of too has chringed and hugely disliked it? what the fuck are you talking about?

OK fine. It's a horrible song and should never be played again. You've convinced us. I found it somewhat enjoyable, but I guess I was wrong.

using the word "fuck" in some way usually gets your point across pretty well.

no one actually talks about the virtue of the song do they? ok take the 'fuck' away and whats wrong with my post? its like they dont really have any decent points isnt it? its like being at a political rally - no raises any points against, or questions things their 'leader' does. wake up abit folks. so again - opinions the song?

I didn't feel it when I first heard it in Munich. Again, not really in London.

Then there was Nijmegen, and then when I actually saw the doco.

It did start off as meh for me, but that Dutch performance and the doco really changed my perspective on this. Childish or not, I felt the sentiment afterwards.

Why are you so angry? it's just a song. I'm not crazy about it either, but I don't make the set list, for god's sake, I don't decide what does or doesn't get played.
If you hate it so much, how 'bout you don't listen to it anymore.

that was a wonderful post 'swirls around'. sadly it kind of misses the point.

The point being "can we ban this song forever?" the answer is no. the end.

it's the eddie vedder way