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 Post subject: What do you expect the follow up to Backspacer to be?
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Backspacer is a solid album. A solid POP album, for sure.

I'm hoping PJ is setting us up for an edgy-er , more raw and maybe even somewhat experimental...in the realm of No Code and Binaural.

Anyone believe this will happen? Do you prefer Pearl Jam to be pop sounding?

I'd love to see Tchad Blake return to produce the next album.

(I do really like Backspacer, but I'm wondering how this pop sound will age)

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I'd like them to get back to some of the weirder stuff they left behind since Avocado. But first, I want a real, full-fledged solo album by Eddie.


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I'm hoping PJ is setting us up for an edgy-er , more raw and maybe even somewhat experimental...in the realm of No Code and Binaural.

:thumbsup:

Doubt they'll go back to Tchad though judging by the interviews and stuff where they said they didn't agree on a lot of things

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i'm not expecting anything. who knows. wouldn't mind something thats the total opposite of Backspacer, even though i like it.

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Whatever it is, they need to ditch the yeti who murders every song he lends his tone deaf talents to.

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Whatever it is, they need to ditch the yeti who murders every song he lends his tone deaf talents to.


So why're you on this messageboard again? Generally I don't join forums for bands I hate.


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I don't see anything in my post about hatred towards the band. I merely stated my opinion on that afterthought in the band.

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probably not what i expected. i didn't expect this but i got it. i'd like something not like bs more than this, but eh, whatever.

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My views on this are the same as they were when backspacer was just a name

I like records with good songs. Pearl jam writes good slow songs and weak slow songs, good anthems and weak anthems, good fast/hard songs and weak ones. Good experimental and weak (although I think this is probably their overall weakest area). As long as the songs are good I don't care.

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 Post subject: Re: What do you expect the follow up to Backspacer to be?
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stip wrote:
My views on this are the same as they were when backspacer was just a name

I like records with good songs. Pearl jam writes good slow songs and weak slow songs, good anthems and weak anthems, good fast/hard songs and weak ones. Good experimental and weak (although I think this is probably their overall weakest area). As long as the songs are good I don't care.


Yep. As far as I'm concerned, I don't mind which direction they go in, if they do it well enough. One of the things I love about this band is the variety: the fact that they can give me a brilliant album full of depth and interest (Vitalogy/No Code/Yield/Binaural/Riot Act) or an equally great pop rock album. I wouldn't mind another album in the direction of Backspacer, if it's at least as good as Backspacer itself.


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Harmless wrote:
stip wrote:
My views on this are the same as they were when backspacer was just a name

I like records with good songs. Pearl jam writes good slow songs and weak slow songs, good anthems and weak anthems, good fast/hard songs and weak ones. Good experimental and weak (although I think this is probably their overall weakest area). As long as the songs are good I don't care.


Yep. As far as I'm concerned, I don't mind which direction they go in, if they do it well enough. One of the things I love about this band is the variety: the fact that they can give me a brilliant album full of depth and interest (Vitalogy/No Code/Yield/Binaural/Riot Act) or an equally great pop rock album. I wouldn't mind another album in the direction of Backspacer, if it's at least as good as Backspacer itself.



In my opinion, it's time they took on a concept album. 10 songs. 40 minutes or so. Ed comes up with a 10 part storyline. Tells Stone write 3 tunes, Jeff write 3 tunes, Mike write 2, Matt write 2. Wait to get music from them. Put story to music. If he feels somethings amiss with the tunes they put together, her can toss one/two/three/four of em and create his own music. Band comes back. Ed shows them what he has and they complete the job.

Well, that's my dream anyway.

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as long as it's produced by brendan o'brien and engineered by nick didia i don't care.

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Another great album.

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dannyschmanny wrote:
as long as it's produced by brendan o'brien and engineered by nick didia i don't care.


I understood the need for PJ to branch out and explore new avenues at various points in their career, but at this juncture, there's absolutely no reason for this to not be the case from here on in...We can only hope the band concurs.


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dannyschmanny wrote:
as long as it's produced by brendan o'brien and engineered by nick didia i don't care.


I understood the need for PJ to branch out and explore new avenues at various points in their career, but at this juncture, there's absolutely no reason for this to not be the case from here on in...We can only hope the band concurs.


I agree with you on this.

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I expect it to be heavier with 1 or 2 more Ed solo-ey ballads thrown in.

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Four or five virgins and a pelican..

No. Four or five 'rockers' followed by some other stuff, ending in a ballad.


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saveuplife wrote:
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stip wrote:
My views on this are the same as they were when backspacer was just a name

I like records with good songs. Pearl jam writes good slow songs and weak slow songs, good anthems and weak anthems, good fast/hard songs and weak ones. Good experimental and weak (although I think this is probably their overall weakest area). As long as the songs are good I don't care.


Yep. As far as I'm concerned, I don't mind which direction they go in, if they do it well enough. One of the things I love about this band is the variety: the fact that they can give me a brilliant album full of depth and interest (Vitalogy/No Code/Yield/Binaural/Riot Act) or an equally great pop rock album. I wouldn't mind another album in the direction of Backspacer, if it's at least as good as Backspacer itself.



In my opinion, it's time they took on a concept album. 10 songs. 40 minutes or so. Ed comes up with a 10 part storyline. Tells Stone write 3 tunes, Jeff write 3 tunes, Mike write 2, Matt write 2. Wait to get music from them. Put story to music. If he feels somethings amiss with the tunes they put together, her can toss one/two/three/four of em and create his own music. Band comes back. Ed shows them what he has and they complete the job.

Well, that's my dream anyway.


I don't trust Eddie with this. He excelled with Into the Wild because it wasn't his story to tell, but much as I think he's had great moments as a lyricist, I would expect a lot of cringe-worthy moments on any full-length concept album.


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mray10 wrote:
saveuplife wrote:
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stip wrote:
My views on this are the same as they were when backspacer was just a name

I like records with good songs. Pearl jam writes good slow songs and weak slow songs, good anthems and weak anthems, good fast/hard songs and weak ones. Good experimental and weak (although I think this is probably their overall weakest area). As long as the songs are good I don't care.


Yep. As far as I'm concerned, I don't mind which direction they go in, if they do it well enough. One of the things I love about this band is the variety: the fact that they can give me a brilliant album full of depth and interest (Vitalogy/No Code/Yield/Binaural/Riot Act) or an equally great pop rock album. I wouldn't mind another album in the direction of Backspacer, if it's at least as good as Backspacer itself.



In my opinion, it's time they took on a concept album. 10 songs. 40 minutes or so. Ed comes up with a 10 part storyline. Tells Stone write 3 tunes, Jeff write 3 tunes, Mike write 2, Matt write 2. Wait to get music from them. Put story to music. If he feels somethings amiss with the tunes they put together, her can toss one/two/three/four of em and create his own music. Band comes back. Ed shows them what he has and they complete the job.

Well, that's my dream anyway.


I don't trust Eddie with this. He excelled with Into the Wild because it wasn't his story to tell, but much as I think he's had great moments as a lyricist, I would expect a lot of cringe-worthy moments on any full-length concept album.


I can't think of a single concept album without any cringe-worthy lyrics... but yeah.


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