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TS808 wrote:
pretty unlikely to get a song called sad in a major key
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D minor pentatonic scale works, wich would be F major if im not mistaken
but the first note of the solo is an A
Yeah, that's correct. F major's relative minor is Dm, which would work, as would Dm Pentatonic since its really the same thing minus 2 notes. If the first note of the solo is A, that would be the 4th mode of the minor pentatonic (4th note of the scale) and / or 3rd mode of F major (an A Phrygian).
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jpj77 wrote:
62strat wrote:
it just makes people weep instantly...
D minor pentatonic scale works, wich would be F major if im not mistaken
but the first note of the solo is an A
Yeah, that's correct. F major's relative minor is Dm, which would work, as would Dm Pentatonic since its really the same thing minus 2 notes. If the first note of the solo is A, that would be the 4th mode of the minor pentatonic (4th note of the scale) and / or 3rd mode of F major (an A Phrygian).
Dm Pentatonic works to solo over but the key of the song is Dm.
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Kesseli wrote:
Buggy wrote:
It's possible. However, if you remember that z = sqrt(a2+b2)[a/sqrt(a2+b2) + bi/sqrt(a2+b2)] = sqrt(a2+b2)[cos(t) + sin(t) i] = |z|eti = eln|z|+ti
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The equation zn = 1 has n complex-valued solutions, called the nth roots of unity. Since we know each root has magnitude 1, let z = eiq. Then
(eiq)n = 1 einq = ei(2pk) nq = 2pk q = 2 pk n so the nth roots of unity are of the form z = ei[(2 pk)/ n].
There are n distinct roots, after which we start duplicating roots already found.
Hummm,, so it is indeed D minor... Ok Thanks!!
Yep, that's what he was trying to say with all that...
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[quote="TS808]
Dm Pentatonic works to solo over but the key of the song is Dm.[/quote]
Wouldn't any song in Dm work with a Dm pentatonic?
Doesn't everything sound good with minor pentatonics?
On another note, what's a good site to get music theory info? I know the basics of chordal and scale theory, but I'd like to learn some more, like modes and stuff.
Wouldn't any song in Dm work with a Dm pentatonic?
Doesn't everything sound good with minor pentatonics?
On another note, what's a good site to get music theory info? I know the basics of chordal and scale theory, but I'd like to learn some more, like modes and stuff.
Question one: yes
Question two: eh, yeah but not really.
Question three: not so sure on websites, but if you're willing to cough up like $25, the Guitar Grimoire - Scales and Modes will take care of that. Modes aren't really all that complicated when they are being used as an extention of a scale. If you have notes:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
each mode is really the same notes, just with a different starting point, for example the 5th mode would be the same notes, and really in the same order if you repeat back to the begining after completing an octave, but in the order of
5 6 7 1 2 3 4
the major scale has 7 notes, thus 7 modes. the pentatonic 5 notes = 5 modes. if you learn a scale pattern for each mode that covers all 6 strings (which will play you through a little over 2 octaves of the scale) you can connect them across the neck to play every note on the fretboard that is in the key you are in.
the practicality of this would be so you can play in any octave range you wish, and have a good span of notes to do so, without having to find the root note of the scale, which might not be near the range of notes you want to play in depending on your key. For example, say you want to use the D Maj scale. If you are wanting to use a pattern that uses all 6 strings giving you the most notes in a small space, you have to go all the way to the 10th fret if you are starting from D. Maybe this is too high of a range that what you want, you can start from G (3rd fret) which is the 4th mode, and use that lower range of notes.
I'm not sure what you already know, maybe that helped and maybe it didn't. I'll quit babbling now but if you have any questions let me know and maybe I can help.
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