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But what are the chances of this album being PJ's first number one since No Code? They're going up against the likes of Sean Kingston and Three Days Grace, but other than that there doesn't seem to be that much competition, unless Jay-Z remains on top. Bearing in mind that the band have done considerable less promotion than they did for self titled: no Letterman, no SNL, no Rolling Stone cover etc.
It'll be interesting to see if this Target deal pays off, because if it works, it could set the standard for other bands, certinally for Pearl Jam. Having said that, exclusive deals to certain stores seem to range from being very succsesful (Eagles, AC/DC) to not very (Guns and Roses).
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thunderroad wrote:
Sorry if this should be somewhere else/there's already a thread
But what are the chances of this album being PJ's first number one since No Code? They're going up against the likes of Sean Kingston and Three Days Grace, but other than that there doesn't seem to be that much competition, unless Jay-Z remains on top. Bearing in mind that the band have done considerable less promotion than they did for self titled: no Letterman, no SNL, no Rolling Stone cover etc.
It'll be interesting to see if this Target deal pays off, because if it works, it could set the standard for other bands, certinally for Pearl Jam. Having said that, exclusive deals to certain stores seem to range from being very succsesful (Eagles, AC/DC) to not very (Guns and Roses).
Pearl Jam sold a 1,000,000 copies to Target from what i've been hearing. Worked out pretty good for them. That will guarantee Platinum status if that's the case.
Now for the charts.....PJ has been pretty consistent on hitting around 200,000 on debut weeks. they are lighting up iTunes pretty well so i would say it will stay on par with the past couple albums. Maybe more with The Fixer being a little more accessible than WWS was. I don't see Three Days Grace pulling that much in. I still think it will have some coattail action from Ten Redux and Conan.
It's unfair. What should anyone expect a band like this too do? Go back to a label?
re: sales
I think this is going to get a kick from Rockband. How do they count these? By track?
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I don't think it counts at all.
It probably only counts in the RB universe. I read ten had 825k track downloads. It's a benchmark for themselves if nothing else. I'm glad they put it on RB. Deeper cuts have a chance for greater exposure.
It's unfair. What should anyone expect a band like this too do? Go back to a label?
re: sales
I think this is going to get a kick from Rockband. How do they count these? By track?
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Can be bought as an album on 360 and PS3. Can be bought as individual tracks on all 3 systems.
Do they count towards record sales? Does a Rockband edition at target count as 2 sold then? Questions!
LOL questions indeed. : ) it should be two I think but it will probably tally in RB totals but might not unless you actually download. I didn't see the RB version at my target (but I am glad I got the shirt. i lurv the astronaut)
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flavdave wrote:
The Billboard 200 tracks sales beginning Monday and ending Sunday, so they might be hurting their chart position by releasing the album on a Sunday.
Not really, they use Nielsen's SoundScan:
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How Nielsen SoundScan tracks sales Sales data from cash registers is collected from 14,000 retail, mass merchant, and non-traditional (on-line stores, venues, digital music services, etc.) outlets in the United States and Canada.
The requirements for reporting sales to Nielsen SoundScan are that the store has Internet access and a point of sale (POS) inventory system. Submission of sales data to Nielsen SoundScan must be in the form of a text file consisting of all the UPCs sold and the quantities per UPC on a weekly basis. Sales collected from Monday-Sunday or Sunday-Saturday are reported to SoundScan every Monday and made available to SoundScan subscribers every Wednesday.[citation needed]
Nielsen SoundScan clients include:
All major and many independent labels. Distribution companies. Artist managers and booking agents. Concert promoters and venue owners. Online retailers and "digital delivery" companies.
Depends on how Target does it i guess.
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That's from the SPIN issue !
I meant the charts, not sales. I'd rather to see them this way, than as missing the boat.
I could be wrong and they could have just blown it. If charts were the target *cough* then they fucked up.
If it's sales, they didn't because more people are shopping today than on Tuesday. The articles written about it gave it more exposure etc. Their first day sales should be higher, and they still pick it up on Tuesday sales.
Pearl Jam’s “Backspacer” On Pace For Number One Debut 9/24/09, 9:16 am EST
Pearl Jam’s ninth studio album, Backspacer, is on pace to become the band’s first Number One album on Billboard’s Top 200 chart since 1996’s No Code. According to Billboard.biz, Backspacer is expected sell in the 175,000-200,000 range, enough to give Pearl Jam their first Number One in 13 years, but not enough to hit the 279,000 the band’s self-titled album sold in 2006 when it debuted at Number Two (Pearl Jam was beaten out by Tool’s 10,000 Days for the top spot).
The album’s strong sales showing is notable because Backspacer is Pearl Jam’s first release without the backing of a major label; the album is exclusive to Target, iTunes, indie record stores and the band’s own Ten Club. Throughout their nearly two-decade career, Pearl Jam’s albums have typically found their way to the upper levels of the charts: 1993’s Vs. and 1994’s Vitalogy both topped out at Number One, while Ten, Yield, Binaural and Pearl Jam all peaked at Number Two. Riot Act remains the band’s lone studio album not to reach One or Two, debuting at Number Five in 2002.
Pearl Jam have also teamed with Target for a new, limited-edition T-shirt featuring Tom Tomorrow’s “astronaut playing drums” illustration from Backspacer’s cover art. All proceeds from sales of the shirt will benefit the Feeding America charity. According to the comments on the Pearl Jam Website, these shirts are pretty hard to find, so head on over to Target sooner rather than later.
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That 175,000 - 200,000 number being thrown around is quite puzzling. That's basically the U.S. 10C members and maybe 50,000 - 75,000 other people?? Seems crazy, but I guess nobody buys CDs of bands that aren't their favorite(s) any more.....
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