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 Post subject: Re: The New 10c Memberships
PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:38 am 
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bmacsmith wrote:
and travelling to the northeast is never fun.


Since ive become more active on the board (even if its just snarky PJ Chat comments), id be far more willing to go to a show in the NE.. but im too afraid i would go to hang out with some of the people from the board, and then feel left out when they start smoking pot and hooking up.


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 Post subject: Re: The New 10c Memberships
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That is a very mature and non emotional way of putting it. A statement i would stand behind. For sure.





I've always tried to be very level headed when arguing the PJ nonsense on the boards. Even back when you got really argumentative with me years ago on Synergy around the time they announced the pricing for the Borgata shows.


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bmacsmith wrote:
and travelling to the northeast is never fun.


Since ive become more active on the board (even if its just snarky PJ Chat comments), id be far more willing to go to a show in the NE.. but im too afraid i would go to hang out with some of the people from the board, and then feel left out when they start smoking pot and hooking up.

We can always hook up.

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Skitch Patterson wrote:
bmacsmith wrote:
and travelling to the northeast is never fun.


Since ive become more active on the board (even if its just snarky PJ Chat comments), id be far more willing to go to a show in the NE.. but im too afraid i would go to hang out with some of the people from the board, and then feel left out when they start smoking pot and hooking up.

We can always hook up.

I dont want a yeast infection.


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 Post subject: Re: The New 10c Memberships
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I argued with you about the borgota? Borgato? Borgata?

Good times.


I try and keep my head down when im in 10club lines for tickets. However, i got super drunk with a bunch of internet nerds in camden 06, that was good times. SUpes drunk.

Good thing too otherwise I would have walked out when ed brought out the convicts to sing Last kiss.


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Skitch Patterson wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Skitch Patterson wrote:
bmacsmith wrote:
and travelling to the northeast is never fun.


Since ive become more active on the board (even if its just snarky PJ Chat comments), id be far more willing to go to a show in the NE.. but im too afraid i would go to hang out with some of the people from the board, and then feel left out when they start smoking pot and hooking up.

We can always hook up.

I dont want a yeast infection.


Skitch, keep my confidential medical conditions off the board, please.

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Skitch Patterson wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Skitch Patterson wrote:
bmacsmith wrote:
and travelling to the northeast is never fun.


Since ive become more active on the board (even if its just snarky PJ Chat comments), id be far more willing to go to a show in the NE.. but im too afraid i would go to hang out with some of the people from the board, and then feel left out when they start smoking pot and hooking up.

We can always hook up.

I dont want a yeast infection.


Skitch, keep my confidential medical conditions off the board, please.

lol you guys!

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62strat wrote:
I argued with you about the borgota? Borgato? Borgata?

Good times.


I try and keep my head down when im in 10club lines for tickets. However, i got super drunk with a bunch of internet nerds in camden 06, that was good times. SUpes drunk.

Good thing too otherwise I would have walked out when ed brought out the convicts to sing Last kiss.

No, you disagreed with me about the borgota


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If I pay forty bucks for my membership, they better not have that stupid Backspacer backdrop again this year at any shows I might attend.

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I would hope this extra money they are getting is going towards improving the pre-sales. You shouldn't have to go throw hell to get pre-sale tickets to shows that dont even end up selling out.


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go throw hell

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 Post subject: Re: The New 10c Memberships
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the band really are turning into money hungry whores


I'd be shocked if the Ten Club even manages to break even. That may, in fact, be a major driver for this announcement.


lol. they used to charge 5 or 10 bucks and mailed the tickets to you and received thousands of checks in the mail to pay for them. i doubt they based their business model on losing money with each new member. today, they charge 20-40 and almost everything is virtual.

call it 50,000 members X 20 = 1 million a year, BEFORE GOODS SOLD. they make 80-90% profit margins on shirts, posters, etc. its basically all profit.

how many employees? 5?

lol

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Matty, you know how I feel about agreeing with you...

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 Post subject: Re: The New 10c Memberships
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oh, they also take convenience fees on the tickets. all profit margin.

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The info on the front page of the News section isn't complete, hence my uninformed previous post. :oops: I guess I should've followed the posted link. Dumbass. :wave:

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cutuphalfdead wrote:
The free bootleg download better be flac...or I'll just have to bypass that and find them elsewhere...


Do we have an answer to this yet? FLAC or MP3? Do they give you a choice?


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given2trade wrote:
B wrote:
adamdude wrote:
the band really are turning into money hungry whores


I'd be shocked if the Ten Club even manages to break even. That may, in fact, be a major driver for this announcement.


lol. they used to charge 5 or 10 bucks and mailed the tickets to you and received thousands of checks in the mail to pay for them. i doubt they based their business model on losing money with each new member. today, they charge 20-40 and almost everything is virtual.

call it 50,000 members X 20 = 1 million a year, BEFORE GOODS SOLD. they make 80-90% profit margins on shirts, posters, etc. its basically all profit.

how many employees? 5?

lol


lol @ "business model"

Those are certainly impressive numbers, but do you think $20 covers the cost of producing a single, pressing them, shipping them, plus printing and shipping an issue of Deep, plus maintaining servers for the website and the Pit, rent, utilities, with enough left over for paying the salary of a full-time manager and multiple part time employees who pack, ship, and respond to e-mails and phone calls and then give the band some percentage of the commission?

You're drastically over-estimating the profit margin on this kind of operation. If they were making money before, this decision is all about keeping that revenue at the same level, not about upping profit.

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B wrote:
given2trade wrote:
B wrote:
adamdude wrote:
the band really are turning into money hungry whores


I'd be shocked if the Ten Club even manages to break even. That may, in fact, be a major driver for this announcement.


lol. they used to charge 5 or 10 bucks and mailed the tickets to you and received thousands of checks in the mail to pay for them. i doubt they based their business model on losing money with each new member. today, they charge 20-40 and almost everything is virtual.

call it 50,000 members X 20 = 1 million a year, BEFORE GOODS SOLD. they make 80-90% profit margins on shirts, posters, etc. its basically all profit.

how many employees? 5?

lol


lol @ "business model"

Those are certainly impressive numbers, but do you think $20 covers the cost of producing a single, pressing them, shipping them, plus printing and shipping an issue of Deep, plus maintaining servers for the website and the Pit, rent, utilities, with enough left over for paying the salary of a full-time manager and multiple part time employees who pack, ship, and respond to e-mails and phone calls and then give the band some percentage of the commission?You're drastically over-estimating the profit margin on this kind of operation. If they were making money before, this decision is all about keeping that revenue at the same level, not about upping profit.


Those costs would exist with or without a fan-club or fan-club fees.

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