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 Post subject: Re: Is there agreement on what the best Backspacer songs are
PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:31 pm 
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Three categories really isn't enough. I mean so many of these songs fall between categories.



They do, but I want to keep this simple. I am just wondering if there is a general consensus among people that Just Breathe and Johnny Guitar (or whatever) are clearly the best songs on Backspacer, and so simpler is better for that.


Chud, have a friend count to 3 for each song and if you can't pick a category by 3, he or she will kick you in the nuts. I bet you could force the songs into categories under that system.

But it wouldn't be honest.

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 Post subject: Re: Is there agreement on what the best Backspacer songs are
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Also, what if I get off on that?

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 Post subject: Re: Is there agreement on what the best Backspacer songs are
PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:53 pm 
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Also, what if I get off on that?


ask for another.

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 Post subject: Re: Is there agreement on what the best Backspacer songs are
PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:55 pm 
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Good/Great songs
Force of Nature
Unthought Known
Just Breathe
The Fixer
Got Some
Speed of Sound
The End

Average Songs
Gonna See My Friend
Johnny Guitar
Supersonic



Below Average songs
Amongst The Waves


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 Post subject: Re: Is there agreement on what the best Backspacer songs are
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GOOD/GREAT:

Gonna See My Friend
Johnny Guitar

AVERAGE:

Amongst the Waves
Just Breathe

BELOW AVERAGE:

Speed of Sound (the Ed solo version would be much higher)
The End
Force of Nature
Got Some
The Fixer
Unthought Known
Supersonic


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 Post subject: Re: Is there agreement on what the best Backspacer songs are
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BELOW AVERAGE:
The End


How wrong you are

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 Post subject: Re: Is there agreement on what the best Backspacer songs are
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theplatypus wrote:
spenno wrote:
BELOW AVERAGE:
The End


How wrong you are

I like the Ed solo versions a lot.

I really dislike the version on the album - the strings ruin the whole thing and it just doesn't sound like I'd want it to. I just can't listen to it, let alone really enjoy it.

I really feel like that song didn't belong on the record.


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 Post subject: Re: Is there agreement on what the best Backspacer songs are
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spenno wrote:
the strings ruin the whole thing


I strongly disagree with this.

spenno wrote:
I really feel like that song didn't belong on the record.


I limply agree with this.

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 Post subject: Re: Is there agreement on what the best Backspacer songs are
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theplatypus wrote:
spenno wrote:
the strings ruin the whole thing


I strongly disagree with this.

spenno wrote:
I really feel like that song didn't belong on the record.


I limply agree with this.

At least we'll always have Gonna See My Friend, Jorge.


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 Post subject: Re: Is there agreement on what the best Backspacer songs are
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:19 am 
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Good (basically the only songs i would care to hear again):

Gonna See My Friend
Johnny Guitar
Just Breathe


Average:

Got Some


Below Average (stuff i never care to hear again):

Amongst the Waves
Unthought Known
Speed of Sound
The Fixer
Force of Nature
The End
Supersonic

guess i'm a black and white kind of guy :)

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 Post subject: Re: Is there agreement on what the best Backspacer songs are
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spenno wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
spenno wrote:
BELOW AVERAGE:
The End


How wrong you are

I like the Ed solo versions a lot.

I really dislike the version on the album - the strings ruin the whole thing and it just doesn't sound like I'd want it to. I just can't listen to it, let alone really enjoy it.

I really feel like that song didn't belong on the record.

you are so right about the strings. i couldn't remember this song, so i had to play it again. i think my opinion of it has fallen.

songs like this and Speed of Sound (and possibly a couple of others) have a bizarre, theatrical sound. they sound like music made for a musical or a 70s melodrama. its like i can see a character in a bad movie suddenly breaking into The End. Ed's funny delivery seals it for me. they sound constructed and artificial to me, compared to earlier Ed solos. probably just personal taste, as I am repulsed by all musicals, so i do not like these songs.

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 Post subject: Re: Is there agreement on what the best Backspacer songs are
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It's a beautiful, simple string arrangement. Love the flugelhorn too.

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 Post subject: Re: Is there agreement on what the best Backspacer songs are
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Good/Great songs
Got Somes
Johnny Guitars
Force of Natures

Average Songs
Just Breathes
The Ends
Unthought Knowns


Below Average songs
Amongst the Wavess
Speed of Sounds
Supersonics
The Fixers
Gonna See My Friends


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:44 am 
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bmacsmith wrote:

songs like this and Speed of Sound (and possibly a couple of others) have a bizarre, theatrical sound. they sound like music made for a musical or a 70s melodrama. its like i can see a character in a bad movie suddenly breaking into The End. Ed's funny delivery seals it for me. they sound constructed and artificial to me, compared to earlier Ed solos. probably just personal taste, as I am repulsed by all musicals, and do not like these songs.



I hear this too, it didnt remind me of musicals but all the slow songs sound off to me. I think it's how eddie's singing, and the weird pronunciations he never used to use before. I hope he cuts it out soon. The first time i listened to just breathe i think i turned it off halfway through because i didnt like the sound of eddie's voice which is sad, because i love his voice usually. They all sounded overworked or trying too hard or something.

That said,

Good:
Johnny Guitar
Got Some
Force of Nature (except that cheesy guitar outro)
Gonna See My Friend


Average:
Unthought Known
Supersonic
The Fixer

Below Average :
The End
Just Breathe

Even lower:
Amongst the Waves



Kill it with fire:
Speed of Sound


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 Post subject: Re: Is there agreement on what the best Backspacer songs are
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Evil.little.goat wrote:
bmacsmith wrote:

songs like this and Speed of Sound (and possibly a couple of others) have a bizarre, theatrical sound. they sound like music made for a musical or a 70s melodrama. its like i can see a character in a bad movie suddenly breaking into The End. Ed's funny delivery seals it for me. they sound constructed and artificial to me, compared to earlier Ed solos. probably just personal taste, as I am repulsed by all musicals, and do not like these songs.



I hear this too, it didnt remind me of musicals but all the slow songs sound off to me. I think it's how eddie's singing, and the weird pronunciations he never used to use before. I hope he cuts it out soon. The first time i listened to just breathe i think i turned it off halfway through because i didnt like the sound of eddie's voice which is sad, because i love his voice usually. They all sounded overworked or trying too hard or something.


yeah i think its the over-pronunciations that make him sound like an stage actor reciting lines or something to me. the strings add to that too.

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The End
Force of Nature
Unthought known
The Fixer
Supersonic

Average

Got some
Johnny guitar


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Just breathe
Gonna see my friend
Amongst the waves
Speed of sound

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 Post subject: Re: Is there agreement on what the best Backspacer songs are
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got some number 1.
most of the rest is indistinct, except just breathe, the end, johnny guitar, the fixer, which i rank in that order. just breathe and got some are the only two i'd consider putting on a mix (PJ or broader), probably.

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Gonna See
Got Some
Fixer
Johnny
Unthought
Supersonic
Speed (maybe my favorite on the album)

Average Songs
The End

Below Average songs
Amongst The Waves
Force of Nature
JUST BREATHE (which could only be worse if, live, they added its sister song, "Send Me on My Way" by Rusted Root, as a tag...try to unhear that now)

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Gonna See My Friend
Got Some
Johnny Guitar
Just Breathe
Supersonic

Average Songs
The Fixer
Unthought Known
Force Of Nature (this only recently moved up from below average in my mind)
The End

Below Average songs
Amongst The Waves
Speed Of Sound

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gonna see my friend

good
the fixer
unthought known
the end
just breathe
johnny guitar
got some

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amongst the waves
speed of sound

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