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mastaflatch · **Posted:** Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:48 pm

blues02 wrote:

mastaflatch wrote:

blues02 wrote:

I like Supersonic, its a fast little rock song. Nothing mind blowing, nothing that is like "fuck I have to hear this band" but just a fast little rock song. The kind of song I'll listen to during the summer.

i like it too but i still ranked it below average (along with Speed of Sound and Force of Nature) solely based on the lyrics.
having said that, i enjoy listening to Supersonic much more than the other 2 while i prefer reading FoN's lyrics or listening to SoS' demo.

To be honest I don't really pay that much attention to the lyrics in that song, I just like it for the music. Lyrics are almost always secondary to the music for me anyway.

i get that. english isn't my language so lyrics always come second when i listen to something new. i can enjoy a great song with shitty lyrics to some degree but i won't listen to some shitty music just because it has brilliant lyrics.

blues02 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:12 pm **Posts:** 1237

mastaflatch wrote:

blues02 wrote:

mastaflatch wrote:

blues02 wrote:

I like Supersonic, its a fast little rock song. Nothing mind blowing, nothing that is like "fuck I have to hear this band" but just a fast little rock song. The kind of song I'll listen to during the summer.

i like it too but i still ranked it below average (along with Speed of Sound and Force of Nature) solely based on the lyrics.
having said that, i enjoy listening to Supersonic much more than the other 2 while i prefer reading FoN's lyrics or listening to SoS' demo.

To be honest I don't really pay that much attention to the lyrics in that song, I just like it for the music. Lyrics are almost always secondary to the music for me anyway.

i get that. english isn't my language so lyrics always come second when i listen to something new. i can enjoy a great song with shitty lyrics to some degree but i won't listen to some shitty music just because it has brilliant lyrics.

Same here. I'd prefer both to work together to create the effect the song is aiming for but if the lyrics fall short but the riffage is there I'm fine.

cutuphalfdead · **Posted:** Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:20 pm

spenno wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Pj should get Radiohead to produce their new album.
Think of all the untapped innovation.

Geez, Dave. Like a dog with a bone...

Pearl Jam should get Mike Mogis to produce their new album.

Sandler · **Posted:** Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:27 pm

dimejinky99 wrote:

the biggest circle jerk we've ever seen begins on saturday:)

This is so true. I also can't wait until Saturday for this album, but I may stay away from OB until I get to know it.

PHATJ · **Posted:** Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:45 pm

durdencommatyler wrote:

I'll leave this open for a week or so and then we'll tally this up (3 points for good/great, 1 for average, 0 for below average)

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You should do 3 for great, 2 for good, 1 for average, 0 for shit.

PHATJ · **Posted:** Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:12 pm

Rating each song on Backspacer on the 5 star rating system (5=Classic, 4=Great, 3=Good, 2=Average, 1=Shit):

Amongst the Waves 4/5
Johnny Guitar 4/5
Unthought Known 4/5
The End 3.5/5
The Fixer 3/5
Got Some 3/5
Speed of Sound 3/5
Gonna See My Friend 2.5/5
Just Breathe 2/5
Force of Nature 2/5
Supersonic 1/5

Bookshelf · **Posted:** Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:44 pm

stip wrote:

Bookshelf wrote:

glorifiedG in AZ wrote:

They could have done so much more with that song.

That's a sentence I speak far too often about this band.

Think how much better Worldwide Suicide would be if they'd done something more interesting with the snoozer of a bridge. Think how delicate a song Amongst The Waves could've been if they hadn't tried to force it into becoming an anthem. Think about...all of Riot Act.

It's like they're quitting before they get to the good stuff.

I really like the idea of amongst the waves not being an anthem--the verses are really interesting and quite good.

But I really like the WWS bridge--the way eddie chokes out that last lyric is great.

I do love that part, but the instrumental lead-up to it is a musical way of saying "If your snack bowl needs a refill, now's a good time."

mray10 · **Posted:** Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:15 pm

Good/Great songs
Got Some
Just Breathe
Force Of Nature
The End

Average Songs
The Fixer
Johnny Guitar
Unthought Known
Supersonic
Speed Of Sound

Below Average songs
Gonna See My Friend
Amongst The Waves

VAN · **Joined:** Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:48 pm **Posts:** 820

Good:
The End
Force of Nature
Johnny Guitar
Unthought Known
Just Breathe

Average:
The Fixer
Got Some
Amongst the Waves
Gonna See My Friend
Speed of Sound

Below Average:
Supersonic

I still like this album quite a bit. The more average songs would be much higher on my list if they had more lyrical substance because musically they're all really good.

digster · **Posted:** Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:21 pm

Surprised that Unthought Known has seemingly dropped in people's minds. I remember that being everyone's favorite when the album was released.

Anyways, for me Got Some and The End are the two keepers. Johnny Guitar, The Fixer and Unthought Known are the next rung down. The Fixer is by far the most improved song over time for me.

stip · **Posted:** Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:38 pm

VAN wrote:

Good:
The End
Force of Nature
Johnny Guitar
Unthought Known
Just Breathe

Average:
The Fixer
Got Some
Amongst the Waves
Gonna See My Friend
Speed of Sound

Below Average:
Supersonic

I still like this album quite a bit. The more average songs would be much higher on my list if they had more lyrical substance because musically they're all really good.

amongst the waves and Speed of sound have very good lyrics, I think. Got Some is really the only dud

VinylGuy · **Joined:** Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:23 am **Posts:** 4187

the fixer has grown to me....i really like the studio version...its really powerfull

AndySlash · **Posted:** Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:37 pm

supersonic looks to be the big wave of backspacer- a fun uptempo rocker i really enjoy and one most others really don't.

digster · **Posted:** Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:40 pm

AndySlash wrote:

supersonic looks to be the big wave of backspacer- a fun uptempo rocker i really enjoy and one most others really don't.

It's pretty fun. The vocals are rough, and how close it is to Mankind is a little oft-putting, but I wouldn't say it's complete dreck.

darth_vedder · **Posted:** Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:42 pm

digster wrote:

AndySlash wrote:

supersonic looks to be the big wave of backspacer- a fun uptempo rocker i really enjoy and one most others really don't.

It's pretty fun. The vocals are rough, and how close it is to Mankind is a little oft-putting, but I wouldn't say it's complete dreck.

Big Wave > Supersonic.

I think Spenno and I are the only ones who like it though. The music to Big Wave is awesome, and how folks don't hear that is beyond me.

glorifiedG in AZ · **Posted:** Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:06 pm

darth_vedder wrote:

digster wrote:

AndySlash wrote:

supersonic looks to be the big wave of backspacer- a fun uptempo rocker i really enjoy and one most others really don't.

It's pretty fun. The vocals are rough, and how close it is to Mankind is a little oft-putting, but I wouldn't say it's complete dreck.

Big Wave > Supersonic.

I think Spenno and I are the only ones who like it though. The music to Big Wave is awesome, and how folks don't hear that is beyond me.

I prefer big wave and I don't think either are horrible songs. They're just simple, uptempo songs that aren't trying to be something they're not.

Mine · **Posted:** Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:17 pm

AndySlash wrote:

supersonic looks to be the big wave of backspacer- a fun uptempo rocker i really enjoy and one most others really don't.

The same thing could be said for The Fixer.

darth_vedder · **Posted:** Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:17 pm

glorifiedG in AZ wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:

digster wrote:

AndySlash wrote:

supersonic looks to be the big wave of backspacer- a fun uptempo rocker i really enjoy and one most others really don't.

It's pretty fun. The vocals are rough, and how close it is to Mankind is a little oft-putting, but I wouldn't say it's complete dreck.

Big Wave > Supersonic.

I think Spenno and I are the only ones who like it though. The music to Big Wave is awesome, and how folks don't hear that is beyond me.

I prefer big wave and I don't think either are horrible songs. They're just simple, uptempo songs that aren't trying to be something they're not.

stip · **Posted:** Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:56 pm

i would enjoy big wave a lot more if it was a b-side, and supersonic a lot more if it didn't sound like mankind

theplatypus · **Posted:** Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:03 pm

"Supersonic" doesn't sound that much like "Mankind". There's one little chord change that is similar. That's it.

Is there agreement on what the best Backspacer songs are

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