Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Listen to the Albums: No Code
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:19 pm
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stip wrote:
digster wrote:
stip wrote:
are you ever gonna finish your Yield tour?
I'd like to, but with the stopping-and-starting (entirely my own fault), it's hard to get good discussions going. I kinda feel like it's just self-indulgent if I'm writing for myself. I'll probably try again, but my posts need to be MUCH shorter. It's just been a kind of crazy year or two, both professionally and personally.
It's too bad; Yield deserved better.
I'm going to do one for vs. when the box set comes out. If you never get around to it I'll probably write one up for Yield after, just to complete the set, but I think you'll tell the better story with that one, so I'd much prefer you do it
Fair enough, I'd like to finish it; it's a matter of personal pride at this point.
Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Listen to the Albums: No Code
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:35 pm
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Simple Torture wrote:
Love the apostrophe, stip
I tried to fit 'now with apostrophes' into the thread title but couldn't
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Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Listen to the Albums: No Code
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:35 pm
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digster wrote:
stip wrote:
digster wrote:
stip wrote:
are you ever gonna finish your Yield tour?
I'd like to, but with the stopping-and-starting (entirely my own fault), it's hard to get good discussions going. I kinda feel like it's just self-indulgent if I'm writing for myself. I'll probably try again, but my posts need to be MUCH shorter. It's just been a kind of crazy year or two, both professionally and personally.
It's too bad; Yield deserved better.
I'm going to do one for vs. when the box set comes out. If you never get around to it I'll probably write one up for Yield after, just to complete the set, but I think you'll tell the better story with that one, so I'd much prefer you do it
Fair enough, I'd like to finish it; it's a matter of personal pride at this point.
I'll do it either before or after Vs., whenever.
Post it after. I'd like to time the Vs. thread for the release
_________________ "Better the occasional faults of a Government that lives in a spirit of charity than the consistent omissions of a Government frozen in the ice of its own indifference."--FDR
Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Listen to the Albums: No Code
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:58 pm
Got Some
Joined: Thu Feb 03, 2005 6:55 am Posts: 1776 Location: New York, NY
stip wrote:
digster wrote:
stip wrote:
digster wrote:
stip wrote:
are you ever gonna finish your Yield tour?
I'd like to, but with the stopping-and-starting (entirely my own fault), it's hard to get good discussions going. I kinda feel like it's just self-indulgent if I'm writing for myself. I'll probably try again, but my posts need to be MUCH shorter. It's just been a kind of crazy year or two, both professionally and personally.
It's too bad; Yield deserved better.
I'm going to do one for vs. when the box set comes out. If you never get around to it I'll probably write one up for Yield after, just to complete the set, but I think you'll tell the better story with that one, so I'd much prefer you do it
Fair enough, I'd like to finish it; it's a matter of personal pride at this point.
I'll do it either before or after Vs., whenever.
Post it after. I'd like to time the Vs. thread for the release
Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Listen to the Albums: No Code
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:38 pm
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Angus wrote:
THe "I sometimes realize..." in Hail Hail seems to come from so deep hidden between the guitars. Love it. I could jump around the room right now.
yeah that's cool--like it's rising up. good call
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Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Listen to the Albums: No Code
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:43 pm
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Off he goes gets more beautiful every single time I listen to it. If I would rank all the PJ songs again like I once did, this one would be way up there. Top-5. The music, the lyrics, the very deep personal connection I have with it and the VA Beach 00 version.
Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Listen to the Albums: No Code
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:57 pm
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Meanwhile, Present Tense is one of the two songs why this band will probably always remain my number 1 even if they continue to release shitty albums. Oops.
Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Listen to the Albums: No Code
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:02 pm
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The only reason to put Mankind behind Present Tense could have been "well, nothing could ever follow that song and stand out, so we better put a shitty song there." A song like Mankind and its placing is the reason this album will never probably never break my Yield / Vitalogy / Binaural top-3.
Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Listen to the Albums: No Code
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:06 pm
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Present Tense with I'm Open as some sort of coda to the song to finish the album would probably be the best solution for me. Leave Around the Bend as a very good B-side and Mankind as a not so very good one. This album goes perfect up until song 10. What the fuck happened then?
Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Listen to the Albums: No Code
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:07 pm
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Angus wrote:
Smile is a song that didn't really click with me for the first few years. But now I absolutely adore it. So simple, so honest, so beautiful.
Yep. I was meh, on it when I heard it back in 96. When I heard it on the Euro 2000 boots, I changed my mind. Those are some of my favorite versions of the song (Milan, Katowice, San Sebastian for example). The TB2K video is really good too.
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