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 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam's Tenth Album (2013)
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:45 pm 
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To me, the only artist I have ever seen that takes alot of liberties with vocal melodies is Bob Dylan and I don't think I've seen a show where the whole music sounded off.


It's worth nothing that many of Dylan's songs--especially the early ones, which are the ones that have been rearranged and sometimes entirely rewritten multiple times--consist primarily of open chords which lend themselves far better to the kind of flexibility you see across Dylan's career. Much of Pearl Jam's songwriting is a kind of equal partnership between "words and music" and "arrangement," in which the arrangement is actually a vital part of the songwriting itself, significantly affecting how the song sounds when altered in any way.



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 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam's Tenth Album (2013)
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I think Radiohead might be my favorite b-side band of all time. I love their leftovers. A lot of their cutting room floor is better than a lot of album tracks.


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This.

The second disc of "The Bends" 2009 re-issue is a testament to just how amazing that time was for the band and would easily stand as one of their top 5 albums. Although, True Love Waits and Motion Picture Soundtrack were from around that time and the eventual studio versions sucked compared to the original 'arrangements' of the songs.

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In that interview with Ed Norton, Stone seemed optimistic that Pearl Jam still had another great album in them. Not too optimistic about when that would happen.

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broken iris wrote:
In that interview with Ed Norton, Stone seemed optimistic that Pearl Jam still had another great album in them. Not too optimistic about when that would happen.


Write more songs Stone. Just that.


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broken iris wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
I think Radiohead might be my favorite b-side band of all time. I love their leftovers. A lot of their cutting room floor is better than a lot of album tracks.


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This.

The second disc of "The Bends" 2009 re-issue is a testament to just how amazing that time was for the band and would easily stand as one of their top 5 albums. Although, True Love Waits and Motion Picture Soundtrack were from around that time and the eventual studio versions sucked compared to the original 'arrangements' of the songs.

There's a studio version of True Love Waits?

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 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam's Tenth Album (2013)
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Think it does but its not out there. But I'm far from an expert.

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 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam's Tenth Album (2013)
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So for all intents and purposes there isn't one.

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cutuphalfdead wrote:
There's a studio version of True Love Waits?


Well, I thought it was. It's full of weird synthesizers and loops. Acoustic guitar completely gone.



EDIT: I was wrong, sorry:

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The song has also been played at live concerts as an introduction to Everything In Its Right Place, accompanied by synthesizers instead of acoustic guitar and with vocal effects applied to Yorke's vocals.

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 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam's Tenth Album (2013)
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Yes, I've seen that bout a month ago. Pretty awesome.


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 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam's Tenth Album (2013)
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Kevin Davis wrote:
Oh, Jimmy wrote:
To me, the only artist I have ever seen that takes alot of liberties with vocal melodies is Bob Dylan and I don't think I've seen a show where the whole music sounded off.


It's worth nothing that many of Dylan's songs--especially the early ones, which are the ones that have been rearranged and sometimes entirely rewritten multiple times--consist primarily of open chords which lend themselves far better to the kind of flexibility you see across Dylan's career.


And still you see reviews where journalists and audiences complain that they can't recognise the songs so they're not going to please everyone. Dylan also did this right from the start of his career - just choosing the phrasing, style and the key on any given day and then, as you say, updating his older songs to fit with his band approach. It is easier for Dylan because he always works with incredible musicians who can go along with anything and sound like it was meant to be recorded that way. A lot of his records are based off first or second takes. He's also Bob Dylan.

Pearl Jam's current touring approach seems to be to put smiles on people's faces rather than to challenge them in anyway so I can't see them changing the songs much - Jeff's made a number of comments in the past about wanting to rearrange stuff and faced a lack of enthusiasm from the band - coupled with their lack of time commitment to the band I don't see the tune down approach changing in the foreseeable future. I'd love to see them do Alive in this style though:


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 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam's Tenth Album (2013)
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 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam's Tenth Album (2013)
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and an EP to be released 6 months later...


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 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam's Tenth Album (2013)
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and a big bold free thing too.


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 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam's Tenth Album (2013)
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Allright, I'm off to do some early rejoicing.


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 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam's Tenth Album (2013)
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any chance they get the roots to open w/ for them?

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and an EP to be released 6 months later...


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 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam's Tenth Album (2013)
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Mmmmmmm.......mmmmmmm. Mmmmmmm.

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 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam's Tenth Album (2013)
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Well Vedder did say quite a few times throughout his latest solo run that it was time to finish up the new PJ record....Made a few references to that it seems


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Mmmmmmm.......mmmmmmm. Mmmmmmm.

wasnt that months ago? also, isnt Mike an habitual liar?

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bmacsmith wrote:
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Mmmmmmm.......mmmmmmm. Mmmmmmm.

wasnt that months ago? also, isnt Mike an habitual liar?


Mike is the guy that usually spills the beans, 2011 Canadian Tour waaay before the dates got announced, this years SF show, the location of the Destination Weekend during an interview on that old radioshow with the "The Rob"


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