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Harmless wrote:
Oh, yeah, I know that - sorry for the negativity; I just think most of their best non-album stuff has been fairly recent, Binaural and onwards. And I'm not sure how much of that we haven't heard.
A big crop of b-sides and outtakes only happens about half the time, right?
Ten: Wash, Dirty Frank, Footsteps, Ledbetter, SOLAT, Breath, Hold On, Brother, Girl
Vs: hard to imagine, alone, hold on
Vitalogy: nothing really
No Code: black red yellow, dead man, all night
Yield: leatherman, you (we'd be better off without them)
Binaural: Sad, Fatal, Education, Hitchhiker, Sweet Lew, In The Moonlight
Riot Act: down, undone, otherside
s/t: nothing
backspacer: nothing
actually I guess a little more than half, but only two albums had a ton of b-sides. And almost none of the binaural stuff was released until Lost Dogs. There's no reason to assume that there isn't a lot more out there and they've just been saving it.
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Oh, yeah, I know that - sorry for the negativity; I just think most of their best non-album stuff has been fairly recent, Binaural and onwards. And I'm not sure how much of that we haven't heard.
A big crop of b-sides and outtakes only happens about half the time, right?
Ten: Wash, Dirty Frank, Footsteps, Ledbetter, SOLAT, Breath, Hold On, Brother, Girl
Vs: hard to imagine, alone, hold on
Vitalogy: nothing really
No Code: black red yellow, dead man, all night
Yield: leatherman, you (we'd be better off without them)
Binaural: Sad, Fatal, Education, Hitchhiker, Sweet Lew, In The Moonlight
Riot Act: down, undone, otherside
s/t: nothing
backspacer: nothing
actually I guess a little more than half, but only two albums had a ton of b-sides. And almost none of the binaural stuff was released until Lost Dogs. There's no reason to assume that there isn't a lot more out there and they've just been saving it.
True, good way to look at it. Of your 'Ten' list, I only really like three of them.
Oh, yeah, I know that - sorry for the negativity; I just think most of their best non-album stuff has been fairly recent, Binaural and onwards. And I'm not sure how much of that we haven't heard.
A big crop of b-sides and outtakes only happens about half the time, right?
Ten: Wash, Dirty Frank, Footsteps, Ledbetter, SOLAT, Breath, Hold On, Brother, Girl
Vs: hard to imagine, alone, hold on
Vitalogy: nothing really
No Code: black red yellow, dead man, all night
Yield: leatherman, you (we'd be better off without them)
Binaural: Sad, Fatal, Education, Hitchhiker, Sweet Lew, In The Moonlight
Riot Act: down, undone, otherside
s/t: nothing
backspacer: nothing
actually I guess a little more than half, but only two albums had a ton of b-sides. And almost none of the binaural stuff was released until Lost Dogs. There's no reason to assume that there isn't a lot more out there and they've just been saving it.
I've never looked at it like this before. The Ten extras are obviously top-notch, but this is often the case with a new band.
Yield - They got it right. Riot Act - Could've been better with those songs.
S/T and Backspacer.... there must be some stuff ready to release
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southp wrote:
stip wrote:
Harmless wrote:
Oh, yeah, I know that - sorry for the negativity; I just think most of their best non-album stuff has been fairly recent, Binaural and onwards. And I'm not sure how much of that we haven't heard.
A big crop of b-sides and outtakes only happens about half the time, right?
Ten: Wash, Dirty Frank, Footsteps, Ledbetter, SOLAT, Breath, Hold On, Brother, Girl
Vs: hard to imagine, alone, hold on
Vitalogy: nothing really
No Code: black red yellow, dead man, all night
Yield: leatherman, you (we'd be better off without them)
Binaural: Sad, Fatal, Education, Hitchhiker, Sweet Lew, In The Moonlight
Riot Act: down, undone, otherside
s/t: nothing
backspacer: nothing
actually I guess a little more than half, but only two albums had a ton of b-sides. And almost none of the binaural stuff was released until Lost Dogs. There's no reason to assume that there isn't a lot more out there and they've just been saving it.
I've never looked at it like this before. The Ten extras are obviously top-notch, but this is often the case with a new band.
Yield - They got it right. Riot Act - Could've been better with those songs.
S/T and Backspacer.... there must be some stuff ready to release
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stip wrote:
Harmless wrote:
Oh, yeah, I know that - sorry for the negativity; I just think most of their best non-album stuff has been fairly recent, Binaural and onwards. And I'm not sure how much of that we haven't heard.
A big crop of b-sides and outtakes only happens about half the time, right?
Ten: Wash, Dirty Frank, Footsteps, Ledbetter, SOLAT, Breath, Hold On, Brother, Girl
Vs: hard to imagine, alone, hold on
Vitalogy: nothing really
No Code: black red yellow, dead man, all night
Yield: leatherman, you (we'd be better off without them)
Binaural: Sad, Fatal, Education, Hitchhiker, Sweet Lew, In The Moonlight
Riot Act: down, undone, otherside
s/t: nothing
backspacer: nothing
actually I guess a little more than half, but only two albums had a ton of b-sides. And almost none of the binaural stuff was released until Lost Dogs. There's no reason to assume that there isn't a lot more out there and they've just been saving it.
They'd just end up on this soundtrack if that were the case
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given the success of lost dogs it doesn't really make sense for the band to release b-sides anymore, when they can release a compilation like that in a slow year.
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stip wrote:
given the success of lost dogs it doesn't really make sense for the band to release b-sides anymore, when they can release a compilation like that in a slow year.
Unless they want to sprinkle the b-sides among re-hashes of old material to increase the sales of stuff they've already done.
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Oh, yeah, I know that - sorry for the negativity; I just think most of their best non-album stuff has been fairly recent, Binaural and onwards. And I'm not sure how much of that we haven't heard.
A big crop of b-sides and outtakes only happens about half the time, right?
Ten: Wash, Dirty Frank, Footsteps, Ledbetter, SOLAT, Breath, Hold On, Brother, Girl
Vs: hard to imagine, alone, hold on
Vitalogy: nothing really
No Code: black red yellow, dead man, all night
Yield: leatherman, you (we'd be better off without them)
Binaural: Sad, Fatal, Education, Hitchhiker, Sweet Lew, In The Moonlight
Riot Act: down, undone, otherside
s/t: nothing
backspacer: nothing
actually I guess a little more than half, but only two albums had a ton of b-sides. And almost none of the binaural stuff was released until Lost Dogs. There's no reason to assume that there isn't a lot more out there and they've just been saving it.
we got the vitalogy version of hard to imagine on the chicago cab soundtrack, so I guess that counts. For no code, we also got don't gimme no lip. Yield also gave us whale song, Riot Act also gave us 04/20/02 and I'd technically call Santa Cruz a backspacer b-side.
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arthurdent wrote:
stip wrote:
Harmless wrote:
Oh, yeah, I know that - sorry for the negativity; I just think most of their best non-album stuff has been fairly recent, Binaural and onwards. And I'm not sure how much of that we haven't heard.
A big crop of b-sides and outtakes only happens about half the time, right?
Ten: Wash, Dirty Frank, Footsteps, Ledbetter, SOLAT, Breath, Hold On, Brother, Girl
Vs: hard to imagine, alone, hold on
Vitalogy: nothing really
No Code: black red yellow, dead man, all night
Yield: leatherman, you (we'd be better off without them)
Binaural: Sad, Fatal, Education, Hitchhiker, Sweet Lew, In The Moonlight
Riot Act: down, undone, otherside
s/t: nothing
backspacer: nothing
actually I guess a little more than half, but only two albums had a ton of b-sides. And almost none of the binaural stuff was released until Lost Dogs. There's no reason to assume that there isn't a lot more out there and they've just been saving it.
we got the vitalogy version of hard to imagine on the chicago cab soundtrack, so I guess that counts. For no code, we also got don't gimme no lip. Yield also gave us whale song, Riot Act also gave us 04/20/02 and I'd technically call Santa Cruz a backspacer b-side.
could a few of the tracks on Ukulele Songs be considered Riot Act b-sides?
we got the vitalogy version of hard to imagine on the chicago cab soundtrack, so I guess that counts. For no code, we also got don't gimme no lip. Yield also gave us whale song, Riot Act also gave us 04/20/02 and I'd technically call Santa Cruz a backspacer b-side.
could a few of the tracks on Ukulele Songs be considered Riot Act b-sides?
I wouldn't really think so. They may have been written at around the same time, but I don't think they would have ever been considered pearl jam songs.
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arthurdent wrote:
EllisEamos wrote:
arthurdent wrote:
we got the vitalogy version of hard to imagine on the chicago cab soundtrack, so I guess that counts. For no code, we also got don't gimme no lip. Yield also gave us whale song, Riot Act also gave us 04/20/02 and I'd technically call Santa Cruz a backspacer b-side.
could a few of the tracks on Ukulele Songs be considered Riot Act b-sides?
I wouldn't really think so. They may have been written at around the same time, but I don't think they would have ever been considered pearl jam songs.
can't keep came to mind. not to mention, thumbing my way and arc are Ed's babies.
here's my guesstimate/wishlist... in no particular order
Yellow Ledbetter (demo) Master/Slave (alternate) Rockin' in the Free World (VMA w/ N.Young) Angel Crown of Thorns (rehearsal or 10th anniversary show) Baba O'Riley Love, Reign O'er Me (studio version) Long Road (demo) Given to Fly (demo) Daughter/It's OK (from first post Roskilde show) Dock of the Bay Present Tense (demo) Not For You/RVM (SNL '94) NAIS (Bridge '99) Hard to Imagine (from Slim's '93) Alive, Release (Ed in Seattle demo) Alone (Go b-side version) Believe You Me, Daddy Could Swear (ed solo demos '88) anything from the first Mookie show Masters of War (Ed/Mike from Dylan show) Reach Down (TOTD demo)
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B wrote:
stip wrote:
given the success of lost dogs it doesn't really make sense for the band to release b-sides anymore, when they can release a compilation like that in a slow year.
Unless they want to sprinkle the b-sides among re-hashes of old material to increase the sales of stuff they've already done.
that would also work. My point is just that there probably isn't money to be made in releasing b-sides anymore in the b-side format.
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stip wrote:
B wrote:
stip wrote:
given the success of lost dogs it doesn't really make sense for the band to release b-sides anymore, when they can release a compilation like that in a slow year.
Unless they want to sprinkle the b-sides among re-hashes of old material to increase the sales of stuff they've already done.
that would also work. My point is just that there probably isn't money to be made in releasing b-sides anymore in the b-side format.
given the success of lost dogs it doesn't really make sense for the band to release b-sides anymore, when they can release a compilation like that in a slow year.
Unless they want to sprinkle the b-sides among re-hashes of old material to increase the sales of stuff they've already done.
that would also work. My point is just that there probably isn't money to be made in releasing b-sides anymore in the b-side format.
True, but there wasn't much money to be made with CD singles to begin with. I imagine if they made 7" singles with b-sides and sold through the 10C then at least all profits would be pocketed.
I ended up with 4 singles from Backspace, so someone is making money!
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