Post subject: Re: synergy / message pit / the porch / pearljam.com bitching
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:07 am
too drunk to moderate properly
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:19 pm Posts: 39068 Location: Chapel Hill, NC, USA Gender: Male
That was really productive ... here's what we learned:
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Since time is limited and there are lots of you, we'd like to focus questions/concerns mostly around:
-New Website - navigation + functionality <-- It's new. Let us know what doesn't work. -Store <-- We hope to offer stuff for women. -Membership <-- There's going to be ticket lotteries now. -Merchandise <-- We might release a blu ray of some type. -DEEP Magazine <-- It's being worked on. This takes time. -Ten Club Single <-- It's being worked on. This takes time. -Tour <-- Pearl Jam is coming to Europe and will probably tour in the future.
_________________ "Though some may think there should be a separation between art/music and politics, it should be reinforced that art can be a form of nonviolent protest." - e.v.
That was really productive ... here's what we learned:
Quote:
Since time is limited and there are lots of you, we'd like to focus questions/concerns mostly around:
-New Website - navigation + functionality <-- It's new. Let us know what doesn't work. -Store <-- We hope to offer stuff for women. -Membership <-- There's going to be ticket lotteries now. -Merchandise <-- We might release a blu ray of some type. -DEEP Magazine <-- It's being worked on. This takes time. -Ten Club Single <-- It's being worked on. This takes time. -Tour <-- Pearl Jam is coming to Europe and will probably tour in the future.
stop hating you're basically a 10 club employee
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Post subject: Re: synergy / message pit / the porch / pearljam.com bitching
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:05 am
too drunk to moderate properly
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:19 pm Posts: 39068 Location: Chapel Hill, NC, USA Gender: Male
given2trade wrote:
stop hating you're basically a 10 club employee
I get all the negatives of 10C employment with none of the benefits.
_________________ "Though some may think there should be a separation between art/music and politics, it should be reinforced that art can be a form of nonviolent protest." - e.v.
Post subject: Re: synergy / message pit / the porch / pearljam.com bitching
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:36 am
AnalLog
Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:28 am Posts: 28541 Location: PORTLAND, ME
given2trade wrote:
¡B! wrote:
That was really productive ... here's what we learned:
Quote:
Since time is limited and there are lots of you, we'd like to focus questions/concerns mostly around:
-New Website - navigation + functionality <-- It's new. Let us know what doesn't work. -Store <-- We hope to offer stuff for women. -Membership <-- There's going to be ticket lotteries now. -Merchandise <-- We might release a blu ray of some type. -DEEP Magazine <-- It's being worked on. This takes time. -Ten Club Single <-- It's being worked on. This takes time. -Tour <-- Pearl Jam is coming to Europe and will probably tour in the future.
Post subject: Re: synergy / message pit / the porch / pearljam.com bitching
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:37 pm
too drunk to moderate properly
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:19 pm Posts: 39068 Location: Chapel Hill, NC, USA Gender: Male
The fact that you were forced to misspell "by" brought the whole thing down.
_________________ "Though some may think there should be a separation between art/music and politics, it should be reinforced that art can be a form of nonviolent protest." - e.v.
Post subject: Re: synergy / message pit / the porch / pearljam.com bitching
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:06 pm
Johnny Guitar
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:03 am Posts: 181 Location: Milwaukee
Coach wrote:
I cant believe Pearl Jam hired a CFO. Arent they anti c-suite?
They need someone to look after the money. My impression is that he worked for Curtis Mgmt and worked directly under Kelly on the money side ... Curtis isn't going to approve/deny the day to day expenses of the band, he has other things to worry about. And it appears they have separate entities for each of the bands they manage and touring arms: for PJ, it's Pearl Jam LLC, Pearl Jam Touring Co, Ten Club LLC, Monkeywrench Records, and probably others.
There are probably lots of intercompany balances and that's ripe for fraud in a small-ish organization where there probably aren't sufficient internal controls. This CFO probably had signature power on regular expenses and the article said he was forging others; probably Curtis for the larger bank transfers. The band probably doesn't need to get loans, so they don't need to have their books audited/reviewed be an independent party. Rife with holes.
Post subject: Re: synergy / message pit / the porch / pearljam.com bitching
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:37 pm
too drunk to moderate properly
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:19 pm Posts: 39068 Location: Chapel Hill, NC, USA Gender: Male
Alright, I went on the record with my opinion.
Quote:
OK, so if you watched the Pearl Jam website closely yesterday you were able to make it into the chat room to talk with Kelly Curtis from 4 to 5pm ET. Because time was short, Curtis asked that topics be limited to the following items:
New Website - navigation + functionality
Store
Membership
Merchandise
DEEP Magazine
Ten Club Single
Tour
You can review the transcript here, but really, we weren't treated to any whoppers. Curtis asked for patience as they work on the new website. The only mention of the store and merchandise was that female Ten Club employees would like more women's clothing choices. Curtis confirmed that the Ten Club Single and DEEP Magazine are being worked on. He also confirmed that there will not be any more 2012 shows, but there will most likely be more shows in 2013 ("touring in 13... lots of us shows promise"). He also confirmed that Ed was feeling much better, but then again, we assumed as much since, at the time of the chat, Ed was 24 hours from taking the stage in Manchester, and no one had cancelled the show.
It is not really clear why Pearl Jam decided to have Curtis chat with the fans. There was really no new news, and to be honest, Curtis takes on a very defensive tone when facing an onslaught of fan questions ("touring is hard for this band.. we average 36 shows a year" or "if the band played many more than they do... then you would not get a unique show" or "jay z asked.. we said yes"). We could forgive that since, he recently found out that an employee had relieved him of over $500,000.
In this format, it's also unclear which questions he's answering. For example, he promised a future "blue ray deluxe package sometime soon," but what will be on that blu-ray? One would hope he was talking about the PJ20 Festival, but he also said, "no bootleg plan for pj 20 yet." Is Curtis really filming for Undercover Boss? Is Ed?
We really appreciate the band's efforts to say in touch with fans, but we can't help thinking that fans might feel heard more if the forum moderators compiled a short list of common or interesting questions for Curtis to answer with carefully drafted answers. Or maybe we're just bitter because we still miss the All Encompassing Trip.
Whichever it is, we're glad that the band is trying something. Thanks. Please don't stop. In the meantime, we'll see you on the road.
_________________ "Though some may think there should be a separation between art/music and politics, it should be reinforced that art can be a form of nonviolent protest." - e.v.
OK, so if you watched the Pearl Jam website closely yesterday you were able to make it into the chat room to talk with Kelly Curtis from 4 to 5pm ET. Because time was short, Curtis asked that topics be limited to the following items:
New Website - navigation + functionality
Store
Membership
Merchandise
DEEP Magazine
Ten Club Single
Tour
You can review the transcript here, but really, we weren't treated to any whoppers. Curtis asked for patience as they work on the new website. The only mention of the store and merchandise was that female Ten Club employees would like more women's clothing choices. Curtis confirmed that the Ten Club Single and DEEP Magazine are being worked on. He also confirmed that there will not be any more 2012 shows, but there will most likely be more shows in 2013 ("touring in 13... lots of us shows promise"). He also confirmed that Ed was feeling much better, but then again, we assumed as much since, at the time of the chat, Ed was 24 hours from taking the stage in Manchester, and no one had cancelled the show.
It is not really clear why Pearl Jam decided to have Curtis chat with the fans. There was really no new news, and to be honest, Curtis takes on a very defensive tone when facing an onslaught of fan questions ("touring is hard for this band.. we average 36 shows a year" or "if the band played many more than they do... then you would not get a unique show" or "jay z asked.. we said yes"). We could forgive that since, he recently found out that an employee had relieved him of over $500,000.
In this format, it's also unclear which questions he's answering. For example, he promised a future "blue ray deluxe package sometime soon," but what will be on that blu-ray? One would hope he was talking about the PJ20 Festival, but he also said, "no bootleg plan for pj 20 yet." Is Curtis really filming for Undercover Boss? Is Ed?
We really appreciate the band's efforts to say in touch with fans, but we can't help thinking that fans might feel heard more if the forum moderators compiled a short list of common or interesting questions for Curtis to answer with carefully drafted answers. Or maybe we're just bitter because we still miss the All Encompassing Trip.
Whichever it is, we're glad that the band is trying something. Thanks. Please don't stop. In the meantime, we'll see you on the road.
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