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Rate Society
5 Stars: Amazing cover 38%  38%  [ 8 ]
4 Stars: Really good 33%  33%  [ 7 ]
3 Stars: Average 23%  23%  [ 5 ]
2 Stars: Was this necessary 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
1 Star: Ugh 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
0 Stars: Whoever it is who wrote society must have been killed by this awful cover and is now rolling over in his grave 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
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Society

Oh, it's a mystery to me
We have a greed with which we have agreed
And you think you have to want more than you need
Until you have it all you won't be free

Society, you're a crazy breed
Hope you're not lonely without me...

When you want more than you have
You think you need...
And when you think more than you want
Your thoughts begin to bleed
I think I need to find a bigger place
Because when you have more than you think
You need more space

Society, you're a crazy breed
Hope you're not lonely without me...
Society, crazy indeed
Hope you're not lonely without me...

There's those thinking, more-or-less, less is more
But if less is more, how you keeping score?
Means for every point you make, your level drops
Kinda like you're starting from the top
You can't do that...

Society, you're a crazy breed
Hope you're not lonely without me...
Society, crazy indeed
Hope you're not lonely without me...

Society, have mercy on me
Hope you're not angry if I disagree...
Society, crazy indeed
Hope you're not lonely without me...



One of the things that really grabbed me about Into the Wild is that it contained the first really great vocal performances from Eddie in a long time, at least for mid tempo and slower stuff. This is not to say that there haven’t been strong songs this decade, but I personally was always wanting Eddie to give a little more of himself. And he recaptured his soaring voice on Hard Sun. He recaptured his contemplative voice on Guaranteed. And he recaptured his vulnerable voice (tempered with age) on Society.

I’m not going to comment much on the music (although Eddie plays well) and lyrics since this is a cover, but while I appreciate what they’re trying to do they are a little heavy handed in places. Eddie’s delivery, however, is stellar. His voice is a captivating mix of higher pitches and a deep, almost bottomless depth. He sounds like struggling to find his way out of a cave, with his voice echoing off the walls and coming back to him so that he can’t make any progress finding a way out. He’s trapped , and the vocals feature this sense of questing is mixed with a sad resignation/acceptance of his fate. On top of that there is an undercurrent that refuses to surrender without quite being defiant. He manages to encompass every element of the song without ever having to vary his delivery, and this is a pretty remarkable achievement.

I’m not sure he could have performed The End without Society coming first, and so for that I’m in this songs debt, but it is pretty excellent in its own right

4 stars

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Have we really gone through ALL the pearl jam songs?

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nah, we still have 10 or so (and some unreleased stuff). Parachutes is the only studio album track (not counting lost dogs) that we haven't done.

As always, if anyone wants to write up any songs that are left please let me know :)

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I agree that this song is better because of Eddie's delivery, but there's something to be said about the music. It's basically just a down-key folk song, but it sounds striking because of the way it was recorded: the rhythm guitar has an attractively clanky sound and the solo is nice and desolate. This is probably my favorite song in Into the Wild.

"Guaranteed" sucks

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The rhyming pattern bugs me. Melodically and musically i think its great.

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I know its a cover and i can't fault Ed for that .


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Easily the best song on Into the Wild and the only one I truly love. The others go from "mew" to "pretty good". I just love this one. Was very disappointed when I discovered it was a cover.


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I really like this one. I love eddie and an acousic guitar though so i'm easily impressed with stuff like this.

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The others go from "mew" to "pretty good". I just love this one.


Mew?

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It's a cover?? :shock:


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Stephen_Malkmus wrote:
It's a cover?? :shock:



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cool thanks for posting that


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theplatypus wrote:
Angus wrote:
The others go from "mew" to "pretty good". I just love this one.


Mew?

as in, akin to the 151st pokemon.

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theplatypus wrote:
Angus wrote:
The others go from "mew" to "pretty good". I just love this one.


Mew?


"meh" I meant. :)


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I think Eddie is great in this song, but the lyrics are troublesome to me. Definitely not one of my favorites.

Stip, I don't understand your comment about Ed not being able to perform The End prior to performing Society. He'd been singing this way for a long time prior to recording this track, it was just usually in live settings. What about the Man Of The Hour demo?

Outside of places where someone can actively learn something, like classical guitar or qwalli style singing, I don't really see how something like this applies to performance. It's too easy. Society does not seem to my ears, to have taught Ed to sing with feeling in this register.

My 2 cents

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Alessiana wrote:
I think Eddie is great in this song, but the lyrics are troublesome to me. Definitely not one of my favorites.

Stip, I don't understand your comment about Ed not being able to perform The End prior to performing Society. He'd been singing this way for a long time prior to recording this track, it was just usually in live settings. What about the Man Of The Hour demo?

Outside of places where someone can actively learn something, like classical guitar or qwalli style singing, I don't really see how something like this applies to performance. It's too easy. Society does not seem to my ears, to have taught Ed to sing with feeling in this register.

My 2 cents

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I don't think it taught him to sing like that. I think he rediscovered that he could. Man of the hour is a beautifully written song, but even the live versions always felt like they were missing something (at least to me). Some fundamental commitment to the songs perhaps. But whatever had been missing I feel was recaptured here.

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stip wrote:
Alessiana wrote:
I think Eddie is great in this song, but the lyrics are troublesome to me. Definitely not one of my favorites.

Stip, I don't understand your comment about Ed not being able to perform The End prior to performing Society. He'd been singing this way for a long time prior to recording this track, it was just usually in live settings. What about the Man Of The Hour demo?

Outside of places where someone can actively learn something, like classical guitar or qwalli style singing, I don't really see how something like this applies to performance. It's too easy. Society does not seem to my ears, to have taught Ed to sing with feeling in this register.

My 2 cents

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I don't think it taught him to sing like that. I think he rediscovered that he could. Man of the hour is a beautifully written song, but even the live versions always felt like they were missing something (at least to me). Some fundamental commitment to the songs perhaps. But whatever had been missing I feel was recaptured here.


For me, at least, one of the great things about this song is the production of the vocal. He may have been able to sing like this in the past, but whatever Ed (and Adam) did during this song, and other moments during ITW allowed his lower baritone to resonate in an extremely powerful manner. I'm not well-versed in techincal jargon, but here his voice envelops you when in certain other times on past albums it doesn't achieve that feat. Maybe the trouble is trying to fit that skill on more densely populated songs.


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Angus wrote:
Easily the best song on Into the Wild and the only one I truly love. The others go from "mew" to "pretty good". I just love this one. Was very disappointed when I discovered it was a cover.

My sentiments exactly.

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punkdavid wrote:
Angus wrote:
Easily the best song on Into the Wild and the only one I truly love. The others go from "mew" to "pretty good". I just love this one. Was very disappointed when I discovered it was a cover.

My sentiments exactly.

Music: possible Lyrics: not possible

I postulate if he wrote this, people would be all over the lyrics on this one.

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Alessiana wrote:
I postulate if he wrote this, people would be all over the lyrics on this one.


I got to know this song under the impression that he wrote it. So euh… NO!


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