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 Post subject: SOTM: Like echoes nobody hears...
PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:12 am 
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Faithfull

Plaque on the wall says that no one’s slept here
It’s rare to come upon a bridge that has not been around or been stepped on
Whatever the notion we laced in our prayers
The man upstairs is used to all of this noise
I’m through with screaming

And echoes that nobody hears
It goes, it goes, it goes
Like echoes that nobody hears
It goes, it goes, it goes like this...
We're faithful
We all believe, we all believe it
We're faithful
Oh we all believe, we all believe it
We're faithful
We all believe, we all believe it
We're faithful
We all believe, we all believe it

And echoes that nobody hears
It goes, it goes it goes
And echoes that nobody hears
It goes, it goes it goes…
We're faithful
We all believe, we all believe it
We're faithful
We all believe, we all believe it
We're faithful
We all believe, we all believe it
So faithful
Oh we all believe, we all believe it

M.Y.T.H. is belief in a game
Controls that keeps us in our box of fear
We never listen, voice inside
So drowned out, drowned
You are, you are, you are a furry thing
And everything is you
Me, you, you me–it’s all related
What’s a boy to do?
Just be a darling, and I will be, too…
Faithful to you.


Previous Songs of the Moment
In My Tree
Red Mosquito
Porch
I Got Id
Release
Do The Evolution
Breath
Corduroy
Elderly Woman...
Leash
Hail Hail
Grievance
Love Boat Captain
Even Flow
Black Red Yellow
In Hiding
Can't Keep
Indifference
Insignificance
Whipping
Black
Smile
Push Me Pull Me
Rats
God's Dice
All or None
Yellow Ledbetter
Last Exit
Who You Are
Rearview Mirror
Hold On
Present Tense
Light Years
Alive
Brain of J
Thumbing My Way
Hard to Imagine
Tremor Christ
Rival
Animal
Lukin
You Are
betterman
Given to Fly
Once
Low Light
Parting Ways
Off He Goes
Go
get right
World Wide Suicide
Angel
MFC
Long Road
Why Go
Nothingman
Save You
Of A Girl
Habit
Satan’s Bed
Oceans

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Faithfull is a song that contains many themes: theology; beliefs; love; fidelity. It’s one of Ed’s most lyrically challenging songs, because it combines all of these themes into a 4-minute piece of work. I’ve heard full-length albums that can’t even spread themselves that far thematically.

I interpret Faithfull as a love song, and Pearl Jam’s finest. As we begin, the narrator questions his belief in a higher power, and in turn rests his comfort knowing he has a significant other here. The first ¾ is existential—the “echoes” in the chorus’ representing prayers. They fly away, unanswered (“nobody hears, they go…"). Yet there is that one person who can answer his prayers, because they are alive and can be seen, thus believed in. By the end, he’s done being contemplative and simply confesses his faith to that person, and that person alone.

We can only believe in what we see, then? This claim opposes thousands of years of religious theory, and I think that’s the point of Faithfull. We can believe in God, but we don’t really know if there is one; there is no physical proof. This song is about finding peace, and the narrator finds peace in what he knows to be true and tangible: his significant other, who he can hold in his arms. There might not be a God, but there is still light. And that light is love from another.

Truthfully, these two themes of existentialism and love have no place being in the same song. But Ed’s writing saves what could have been a train-wreck, lyrically speaking. This is what shocked me the first time I heard it; it begins as a diatribe against religion and finishes as a love song. Most songwriters would have attempted to combine the two themes by interweaving them throughout in order to keep some sort of narrative consistency. But Ed is not like most songwriters.

Faithfull will not be for everyone’s taste. But for those who can understand it, no matter what their individual understanding is, it hits you hard and really makes you contemplate “faith” and where it should lie.

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Great post Frank, although I disagree with one point. I think love as the answer to his existenstial crisis works perfectly. We don't know if there is a God. Our prayers may never be answered, and even if one exists there is so much baggage attatched to the idea (the outro verse) that it saps or corrupts so much of the inspiration and vitality than can be drawn from it

But we can believe in love precisely because it mixes that moment of immanence and transcendence. We find it and foster it here, and if we're lucky enough to be succesful we'll know it, we'll reap the rewards (the way it can ground us and give us meaning) and in doing so also find something so much larger than ourselves that we can be a part of and belong to.

I adore the first verse. Some first rate writing that does a wonderful job of capturing the frustration with God that marks the more interesting types of athiesm and agnosticism--the anger and hurt directed at God for not exisiting (or at least confirming that existence). The bridge line in particular is brilliant (and is reprised to great affect in Marker in the Sand 8 years later)

The echoes line is also brilliant. Great choice using that for the header Frank.

It is after the echoes line that the song loses something for me. I love the main riff (although like In Hiding, while it manages to be warm, it is missing some of the depth that makes earlier anthems like Alive, RVM, or Corduroy superior) and in general the music is really good. But the chorus seems kind of lazy. "We're faithful--we all believe, we all believe it"
would have been nice as a final line in a chorus but it needs more, and there is certianly more that could be said.

Ending on an outro verse is a neat choice, but I'm not as big a fan of this one. The m.y.t.h. feels a little affected, and the game controls...boxes of fear is a nice sentiment but feels a little clumsy. I'm also not into the furry thing, and while the final lines are touching, there is something a little juvenile about the presentation, especially when he does such a nicer job with it a few songs later at the end of Wishlist. So in general the song just goes downhill after the first verse for me.

This is a textbook 3.5 star song, with some great moments and a lot of lost opportunity. But it kicks ass live and it is closer to 4 than 3 so it gets the four.

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I gave it 4 stars but this has always been a song I never really get tired of. I think the echoes part is the shit but the chorus is kinda lazy which means it isn't as good as it could have been. Still a great song and Frank said pretty much exactly what I think of the song so there's no need to repeat it. nice choice


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5 stars, strong lyrics, amazing live


we all believe

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Enjoyed reading your post Frank. I think you are right, some people will think its awesome and some will just think of it as OK. I think its top PJ.

the "you are a furry thing" line? I don't get that line...

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My #9 Pearl Jam song of all-time. 5 stars. Love everything about it!

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Enjoyed reading your post Frank. I think you are right, some people will think its awesome and some will just think of it as OK. I think its top PJ.

the "you are a furry thing" line? I don't get that line...


What Eddie is saying in that line is that your 'voice inside' can be seen as a pet, something that is small/easy to ignore and feed and attend enough to just so it doesn't die or else it can be fully embraced, loved and something you can learn from. (In my opinion) 5 stars. fuckin' amazing song.

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nothing exciting, but its still a good song

i gave it average, but id prefer a "just plain good" mark, cos its not quite real good

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this is a great track. i gave it 4 stars. its one of my favourites from give way (yield).

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not played enough live imo

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Its called Faithfull.

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Five stars. This has always been one of my favorite songs from Yield. I think that Frank nailed it with his interpretation.

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3 stars, and sadly this is one of the better songs on Yield.

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Frank, I love you! 5 stars, easily! Love it love it love it love it! I could really not believe it when they played it at my very first PJ show in Kitchener last year. Incredible!


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Luv AT!!!! The sweetness of the end is soooo...sweet.

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Love the song, love the theme. I don't care for the closing verse, though. I think it steals some of the momentum from the song. The guitar work is especially solid.

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This is like a 4.5 but I voted 4. I love the part about walking bridges or whatever. yuppp


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Great song. always liked it, one of those pj songs that doesn't take itself too seriously, but at the same time, tackles some pretty deep philisophical grounds. :D

it echoes echoes echoes....

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whatever the notion we laced in our prayers
the man upstairs is used to all of this fucking noise
i’m through with screaming


some of my favorite lyrics from the group.

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