He also said this afterwards

”Without making a big deal out of it, we don’t have any shows after this… honestly, I don’t know when we’re gonna do it again.”

Great Post here...they are way better than those bands because od those influences, their sensiblities and just because of their songs. They have try and succeed to go way further than those bands. The same with PJ. For me its not the same kind of music at all.

Yeah, and there's a hundred shades of nuance in Pearl Jam's music that are completely absent from Creed and Nickelback. I'm with you. But, again, when you boil it down to its essentials, it's all mostly brawny, angular hook-laden rock music with pop inclinations. What I'm trying to get across is that saying the Foo Fighters play "the same kind of music" as Nickelback isn't really a valid criticism, because playing the "same kind of music" doesn't mean it's the same quality in craftsmanship and execution. For the most part, The Turtles and The Beatles played "the same kind of music"... but I think it's clear which one was the superior band.

...it's easy to understand why people are always saying that "all jazz sounds the same."

This seems like the right choise for them after such a world tour. They really did a great job promoting Wasting Light.

what cretins say this

Hank Mobley makes me want to party. I'm going to listen to Miles Davis at the Blackhawk later.

To compare Creed to the Foos is not "offensive," I just happen to think that they are a far better band. And here's why;

-Lyrical content (not that Grohl is the best, but c'mon, his words are better than Scott Stapp's) at least his lyrics have a narrative
-Song organization/composition intro riff/verse/chorus/verse/chorus/bridge/solo/chorus. Grohl is a genius
-Lead singer is less of a douche About equal
-Lead singer doesn't exclusively use the Vedder vibrato on every single fucking song Because he can't
-The band is more talented, instrument by instrument the Foos have a better guitarist than Mark Tremonti? Since when? And Stapp is a better singer. Check out his solo album - K. Coffin from Orlando said in his 5 star Amazon review that: "The first solo release by Scott Stapp is a terrific CD! His writing has only gotten better over the years. The songs here are diverse, uplifting, and heart-felt. There is certainly at least one song on this CD that everyone can identify with and relate to - at LEAST one." And he uses his real name for reviews so you know he is speaking the truth
-Dave Grohl has deep seeded rock roots that stretch from everything from straight punk, to Nirvana, to Tom Petty, to Queens of the Stone Age. Say what you will, dude is a diverse, talented musician. That first Foo album is 100% Dave Grohl. I don't care who you are, you at least have to respect the mans ability. The same cannot be said for any member of Creed He is a good drummer
-They take their music videos far less serious Because their songs don't mean anything
-They played on the same tour as Mike Watt. Awesome Some dude I'm supposed to like because Ed played with him. Are the Minutemen really on high rotation on your iPod?

having read every post in here, it seems like the foos and grohl in particular are getting criticized for three things over and over: their music is formulaic, too accessible, and dave's lyrics are meaningless.

i get the first point, but one of the things i really like about them is that no matter what setlist they play, the songs fit together well. i've seen them twice on the wasting like tour. i love that songs like generator, i'll stick around, and hey, johnny park get played right alongside arlandria, dear rosemary, and walk, and they actually complement each other. don't get me wrong, pearl jam is my first and biggest musical love, but you know the same can rarely be said for their sets. we are always analyzing their sets around here, and i would say the main issue diehard fans bring up is the flow of the setlists.

i don't understand the criticism about being too accessible. it's fucking arrogant. just because the majority can grasp and enjoy something doesn't make it shit. the foos don't tap into the christian rock audience that creed milked, nor do they tap into the drink, fuck, and fight crowd that nickelback has courted for a decade. the foos are accessible to pretty much everyone who enjoys a good meat and potatoes rock song. i have taught high school for 13 years. during that time, i've seen the foos multiple times. there are always large numbers of kids jealous of that. when i tell them about pearl jam, some of them mention their dad. sleight of hand is my favorite binaural song; in fact, it's probably my favorite pj song of the last decade, but no one i've played it for has been blown away or even remotely intrigued by it. is that because they're too dumb to get it or do they just not appreciate "honest, challenging music"?

and to the third point, how are dave's lyrics meaningless? he's not beck, anthony keidis, or the guy from train: i don't think he's just rhyming and seeing what he can get away with. i find truth and relevance in most songs on every album. i find the same thing on pearl jam albums, but i also find lukin, johnny guitar, and yellow ledbetter. dave writes some clunkers, sure, but isn't ed responsible for, "i never knew soap made you taller" and "when the gas in my tank feels like money in the bank"? ole!

i've had many conversations and arguments over the last 20 years that revolved around defending pearl jam. if a line in the sand was drawn between these two bands, there is no question which i side i would be on. that said, i think the foos don't get enough credit for the catalog they've put together in 3 or 4 less years than pearl jam or for the live juggernaut that they have become. there i no question that when all is said and done pearl jam's early/mid-90s highs will not be touched by the anything the foos or pearl jam does in the future. due to that, i am sure the band and Ten will make top 100 lists for a century to come, but i wouldn't be surprised if the foos have a more widespread impact on future generations as their parents, who will be spread out over a longer period of time due to the foo's sustained popularity, play them the songs (not albums) of their youth.