Post subject: Re: Film: The Tree of Life (Malick-Penn-Pitt-May 27th)
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:29 am
Unthought Known
Joined: Sat Dec 04, 2004 7:46 am Posts: 6099
LittleWing wrote:
Oh, so I gotta watch fifty minutes of garbled mess wanna be nature show before I get to the part that matters? Why not just make an entire move that, ya know, matters?
No, it all matters. But I'm not going to waste my time with people who havent even finished it. Barely even a quarter of it.
Post subject: Re: Film: The Tree of Life (Malick-Penn-Pitt-May 27th)
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:28 am
Supersonic
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:43 am Posts: 10694
durdencommatyler wrote:
It's cool man. Some people like to be challenged and moved by their movie going experiences. Ain't no thing. If you thought the first "fifty" minutes of the movie was nothing more than "garbled mess wanna be nature show" it's probably a good thing that you didn't try to watch the rest of it. The movie was already way ahead of you.
Yeah, I like to be challenged to. This isn't challenging. It's just an unmitigated mess that lacks subtlety - there's nothing challenging about it. It begs the question as to what you found to be challenging AT ALL! Pretending that the movie was "already way ahead of you" is utterly absurd. I'm a fan of plenty of "intellectually stimulative movies."
This isn't one of them. This is nothing but hackneyed, uninteresting, painfully slow, disjointed, pretentious bullshit, fed to people who are trying to do nothing but build their street cred amongst the crowd that's trying to prove they're love of "challenging movies". It's like the Sufjan Stevens of movies; so forced, phony, and detached that it's impossible to enjoy and do anything other than laugh at.
But yeah, keep trying to flatter yourself. Just like all those Sufjan Steven's fans listening to garbage just to build their hipster cred.
[quote=I Hail Randy Moss]Barely even a quarter of it.[/quote]
Holy fuck, people actually sat through another almost 3/4s of this? Wow.
I might have been able to get through if it wasn't so hyped up as the greatest thing since sliced bread. The first part of the movie is awful, let alone the greatest thing since sliced bread, so I felt completely let down and disappointed by it. I seem to be enjoying movies more when I go in with low expectations and seeing something decent than expecting a great flick and getting one that isn't.
Post subject: Re: Film: The Tree of Life (Malick-Penn-Pitt-May 27th)
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:56 am
Supersonic
Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:55 pm Posts: 11320 Location: Brooklyn Gender: Male
I don't think it's the best movie of last year, let alone the greatest thing since sliced bread. But it's far from hackneyed or pretentious. In fact, one of the great things about the movie is it's sheer lack of pretension. This thing is so honest. It's wearing its heart on its sleeve. It's brutal. If it was a little more pretentious it would be easier to watch.
However it is slow and disjointed, so I'll give you those. But neither slow nor disjointed are a bad thing in this case. If fact, the film has to be disjointed. That's part of the story, part of the necessity of the experience. And it's a better movie for it.
The only part of the narrative - yes, even the dinosaurs! - that I didn't like and thought needed to be reworked was all the Sean Penn stuff. The movie might be better if you cut him out. But I need to see it again. The movie is ahead of me on that score.
How am I flattering myself? Because I liked and understood it? How is that flattery? Does this have something to do with that crack Rocky about my monocle? Would it help if I told you I don't wear a mustache?
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Post subject: Re: Film: The Tree of Life (Malick-Penn-Pitt-May 27th)
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:50 pm
Supersonic
Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:55 pm Posts: 11320 Location: Brooklyn Gender: Male
62strat wrote:
Dct , ill be in brooklyn thursday may 10.
I am contemplating watching this movie right now. Littlewing hates it. I am sure I will love it. I've heard nothing but good thigns from some close friends.
Post subject: Re: Film: The Tree of Life (Malick-Penn-Pitt-May 27th)
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:14 pm
AnalLog
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:15 pm Posts: 25452 Location: Under my wing like Sanford & Son Gender: Male
Jesus christ you've become a parody of yourself LW. You realize that "ZOMG! Pitchfork hipsters!!!" hasn't been a valid argument against something since 2008? How can you criticize a movie you didn't watch?
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Post subject: Re: Film: The Tree of Life (Malick-Penn-Pitt-May 27th)
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:29 pm
The Snowboy
Joined: Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:53 pm Posts: 11395
LittleWing wrote:
I might have been able to get through if it wasn't so hyped up as the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Don't you think you might have got through it if you ignored how hyped up it was, and if you didn't need a movie to be the greatest thing since sliced bread? Who are you listening to to make your movie judgments for you?
Post subject: Re: Film: The Tree of Life (Malick-Penn-Pitt-May 27th)
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:13 pm
The Snowboy
Joined: Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:53 pm Posts: 11395
LittleWing wrote:
The point of bringing up something is dated is to show you that nobody will care about this movie in five years because it's actually awful.
Show us? Like, that's objective fact is it? Is something good because it's remembered? That excludes anything 'good' that may have been lost to history, and also anything which is remembered for being good when it actually isn't, like the Titanic movie. I don't really care what gets 'remembered', I kind of make my own decisions about what I like and find memorable.
Post subject: Re: Film: The Tree of Life (Malick-Penn-Pitt-May 27th)
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:21 pm
Supersonic
Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:55 pm Posts: 11320 Location: Brooklyn Gender: Male
Also, you can't call something dated (or timeless) or awful (or brilliant) if you haven't, you know, seen it. Even a monocle-less person could see that!
Post subject: Re: Film: The Tree of Life (Malick-Penn-Pitt-May 27th)
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 4:14 pm
The Snowboy
Joined: Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:53 pm Posts: 11395
LittleWing wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
It's cool man. Some people like to be challenged and moved by their movie going experiences. Ain't no thing. If you thought the first "fifty" minutes of the movie was nothing more than "garbled mess wanna be nature show" it's probably a good thing that you didn't try to watch the rest of it. The movie was already way ahead of you.
Yeah, I like to be challenged to. This isn't challenging. It's just an unmitigated mess that lacks subtlety - there's nothing challenging about it. It begs the question as to what you found to be challenging AT ALL! Pretending that the movie was "already way ahead of you" is utterly absurd. I'm a fan of plenty of "intellectually stimulative movies."
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