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 Post subject: The necessity of a release forum
PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 8:17 pm 
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Alright people this time I'd like to lend your ears on something that is important for me. As some of you know already, I'd like to have a forum that is for the creative output of our fellow RMers. I can see that there is a lot of talent floating around, and many people are willing to discuss writing/ photography/ other art forms. Of course, there is a thread for that in A&E, but I'm afraid that this is not enough for several reasons.
One of them is that a single thread simply does not do justice to the uniqueness of each piece/ author/ painter/ photographer. Also, the whole mass of other things flowing around in A&E/ the writing/ photography threads drowns the single piece. what I mean with that is that all of the stuff is overwhelming. I can't get myself to really commenting on a special piece, although I'd love to, but in this mass it's just too much. I just can't really give a good comment on what I read, just because I have a hard time focusing on one certain piece when there are 20 or more good pieces on one page. And I usually also don't post my own poems because I'm afraid that they'll just get lost in the flood of other pieces.

So, if anyone else sees this necessity, I'd love you to post in this thread here. Thank you very much. I appreciate it a lot, and thanks for anyone who tried supporting this idea so far.

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I used the old release-forum quite a bit, but I haven't even checked the poetry-thread in here. So I agree.

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the poetry and photog threads seem popular, so why not make it official. We have quit a few creative types. I think this is a great idea. At least have a pilot section and test the interest? why not


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GOS, let's bring it up in mod forum.

If it was here, and now is gone, there must be a reason, but it was before my time, so we'll get back to you about it.

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I'll put a vote into attempting to recreating a release forum, perhaps if the forum had it's own moderator, who would be interested in spending a good amount of time in said forum, I don't know though, just throwing this out there.

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if memory serves, and there's at least a 48% chance it does, a need arose for an arts & entertainment forum so that we could get all of the television and film discussion out of GD, where it was cluttering up the word association and interview posts. Since the release thread was the least-busy thread on the board, it was chosen to "incorporate" the arts & entertainment thread. And here we are!

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knuckles of frisco wrote:
if memory serves, and there's at least a 48% chance it does, a need arose for an arts & entertainment forum so that we could get all of the television and film discussion out of GD, where it was cluttering up the word association and interview posts. Since the release thread was the least-busy thread on the board, it was chosen to "incorporate" the arts & entertainment thread. And here we are!

yeah but I think it's not so good that the beauty of poetry is being overwhelmed by discussions about Lost and Nip/Tuck. It's not that I have anything against these discussions, it just doesn't belong into the same forum.

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Raziel wrote:
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if memory serves, and there's at least a 48% chance it does, a need arose for an arts & entertainment forum so that we could get all of the television and film discussion out of GD, where it was cluttering up the word association and interview posts. Since the release thread was the least-busy thread on the board, it was chosen to "incorporate" the arts & entertainment thread. And here we are!

yeah but I think it's not so good that the beauty of poetry is being overwhelmed by discussions about Lost and Nip/Tuck. It's not that I have anything against these discussions, it just doesn't belong into the same forum.

i didn't disagree then, and i don't disagree now. the only thing that's changed is my level of interest.

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i concur with Raziel.

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The release forum was by far the least used forum on the board. At the time, people wanted a new forum, and it was decided to be the Arts and Entertainment forum, and "release" was combined with A&E.
A&E has become a very good forum. When people do post poetry or writings in there they tend to get lost quickly with all the other discussions. It's unfortunate, but it also shows the general lack of interest for such a thing. If there really was a huge interest in a poerty/writing forum, you certainly wouldnt be seeing those threads die so quickly in A&E.

Dont get me wrong, I always really liked the idea behind the release forum, but it just did not get very much interest with the exception of a few hardcore people. Which at this point is still all I see, a few hardcore people who might use it, but the rest of the board I imagine would only even look at it semi-frequently, if at all.


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Buggy wrote:
The release forum was by far the least used forum on the board. At the time, people wanted a new forum, and it was decided to be the Arts and Entertainment forum, and "release" was combined with A&E.
A&E has become a very good forum. When people do post poetry or writings in there they tend to get lost quickly with all the other discussions. It's unfortunate, but it also shows the general lack of interest for such a thing. If there really was a huge interest in a poerty/writing forum, you certainly wouldnt be seeing those threads die so quickly in A&E.

Dont get me wrong, I always really liked the idea behind the release forum, but it just did not get very much interest with the exception of a few hardcore people. Which at this point is still all I see, a few hardcore people who might use it, but the rest of the board I imagine would only even look at it semi-frequently, if at all.

but is that a reason not to start such a forum? I think this would only help covering up everything. We have several PJ forums, a politics forum, a media forum, a sports forum, an other bands forum and a bla forum. I don't see why we can't have a creative output forum as well.

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Buggy wrote:
The release forum was by far the least used forum on the board. At the time, people wanted a new forum, and it was decided to be the Arts and Entertainment forum, and "release" was combined with A&E.
A&E has become a very good forum. When people do post poetry or writings in there they tend to get lost quickly with all the other discussions. It's unfortunate, but it also shows the general lack of interest for such a thing. If there really was a huge interest in a poerty/writing forum, you certainly wouldnt be seeing those threads die so quickly in A&E.

Dont get me wrong, I always really liked the idea behind the release forum, but it just did not get very much interest with the exception of a few hardcore people. Which at this point is still all I see, a few hardcore people who might use it, but the rest of the board I imagine would only even look at it semi-frequently, if at all.


Sad but true it seems

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Raziel wrote:
but is that a reason not to start such a forum?


Unfortunately, lack of interest is a pretty good reason to not have a forum.

Raziel wrote:
I think this would only help covering up everything. We have several PJ forums, a politics forum, a media forum, a sports forum, an other bands forum and a bla forum. I don't see why we can't have a creative output forum as well.


I see creativeness all over the place. It need not be consolidated into one forum. There is stuff all the time in GD or A&E, and even in OB where people are doing creative things. Sharing their music, or photos or writings. I think this is more appropriate in terms of interest than creating an entire forum that would lack it.


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Okay. Just one more word on this. Maybe the Release forum wasn't the most popular one. But I felt it was one of the most intimate and also most passionate forum. It was the one I felt most comfortable in. When people started threads about things they'd written they were very often replied to, even if that didn't happen at once, but that's the thing about poetry, you let it sink in to see what effect it has on you. You see and this is why we do need a release forum again. True, when a single poem thread is posted it will usually sink down after a while, just because maybe not everyone can comment on poetry as much as his or her favourite TV show. But for the people that wrote it/ that are interested in writing in just sucks because with a little time passing to have the piece sink into your mind a good discussion might get on.
Oh and even the derailment in this forum happened to be in verse form. Writing is something that is deeply enrooted inside me, and I'd love to have a forum to share my own writing to see what people think of it as well as have me inspired by other writer's output.

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Raziel wrote:
Okay. Just one more word on this. Maybe the Release forum wasn't the most popular one. But I felt it was one of the most intimate and also most passionate forum. It was the one I felt most comfortable in. When people started threads about things they'd written they were very often replied to, even if that didn't happen at once, but that's the thing about poetry, you let it sink in to see what effect it has on you. You see and this is why we do need a release forum again. True, when a single poem thread is posted it will usually sink down after a while, just because maybe not everyone can comment on poetry as much as his or her favourite TV show. But for the people that wrote it/ that are interested in writing in just sucks because with a little time passing to have the piece sink into your mind a good discussion might get on.
Oh and even the derailment in this forum happened to be in verse form. Writing is something that is deeply enrooted inside me, and I'd love to have a forum to share my own writing to see what people think of it as well as have me inspired by other writer's output.

dude, just go watch some television. That Survivor is supposed to be a great show. And that Battlestar Galactica series. Pretty soon, you'll find other means of creative and artistic outlet, like using a three syllable word in a discussion about last night's episode of Scrubs.
And you know what? You'll be a better American for it.

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a bit ago, i did up a release board and posted the link here. very few people joined (there are 16 memebers to be exact) and then it died. i think it would have been more successful had it been here, but we're not allowed to have that anymore. we get a "random writing" thread and a photography thread. hooray!

personally, i'd like to see the release forum come back. you may not think there's a difference, but there is. if i post a poem in A&E, the chances of it going unnoticed are great because people are more concerned with Survivor, Wherever, then they are with what i wrote. i generally like having a critique. having a release forum allows for writing prompts and all sorts of things that die here. it was more intimite there. i knew people and i respected their opinions.

but, it's not up to me. i can sit and shout that a release forum would be good, if for nothing else than a common place for rm'ers to post their music (does it go in other bands? general discussion? A&E?), but in the end, it's not up to me.

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knuckles of frisco wrote:
... a need arose for an arts & entertainment forum so that we could get all of the television and film discussion out of GD, where it was cluttering up the word association and interview posts.

:lol:

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a bit ago, i did up a release board and posted the link here. very few people joined (there are 16 memebers to be exact) and then it died. i think it would have been more successful had it been here, but we're not allowed to have that anymore. we get a "random writing" thread and a photography thread. hooray!

personally, i'd like to see the release forum come back. you may not think there's a difference, but there is. if i post a poem in A&E, the chances of it going unnoticed are great because people are more concerned with Survivor, Wherever, then they are with what i wrote. i generally like having a critique. having a release forum allows for writing prompts and all sorts of things that die here. it was more intimite there. i knew people and i respected their opinions.

but, it's not up to me. i can sit and shout that a release forum would be good, if for nothing else than a common place for rm'ers to post their music (does it go in other bands? general discussion? A&E?), but in the end, it's not up to me.

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lemoncoatedafterworld wrote:
a bit ago, i did up a release board and posted the link here. very few people joined (there are 16 memebers to be exact) and then it died. i think it would have been more successful had it been here, but we're not allowed to have that anymore. we get a "random writing" thread and a photography thread. hooray!


So far, these are some things that have happened (simplified):

- Release forum is around, but gets little interest or use, so it's removed.
- Threads were created in A&E for people to post poetry/writing/photography. A fun idea, but still, not all that used.
- lemoncoated creates a release board, which gets little interest or use, so it died.
- This thread is created asking to start the release forum again...but with little interest from anyone (I believe I counted 6 people showing interest so far).


Like I said all along, I've always like the idea of the release forum. I wish there was enough interest to warrent an entire forum for it, but there just is not.

Not even close.


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How much use do the Technical Support and Announcements forums get? What's the harm in putting a Release forum towards the bottom of the board?

I can say that I will never post any writing/music here, but I would be more inclined to do so in a more intimate forum like the Release forum.

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