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 Post subject: hey horror movie fans, are we sick people?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:45 pm 
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i mean ... some of the stuff i say in here creeps me out a bit :|

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Yes. Yes we are.

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For the most part, yeah. I only like two so called "horror" films. "Exorcist" and "Sixth Sense". But I barely call them horror. People label them horror like they do with "Texas Chainsaw" and it bothers me. One is intelligent writing, and the other is not.


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I Hail Randy Moss wrote:
For the most part, yeah. I only like two so called "horror" films. "Exorcist" and "Sixth Sense". But I barely call them horror. People label them horror like they do with "Texas Chainsaw" and it bothers me. One is intelligent writing, and the other is not.


It doesn't have to be "intelligent" in order to scare you. It just has to scare you. TCM is horror as much as Exorcist.


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I know, but I like my horror providing food for thought long after I've watched it.


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any thoughts on Santa's Slay or Gingerdead Man? I'm starting to get in the holiday spirit.

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I think your taste in movies is a bit strange sometimes, but I wouldn't call you people 'sick.' They've (horror movies) never really done much for me.

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TCM > Sixth Sense and the Exorcist

And I suppose to some people, yes we are, but fuck those people.

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stephen king wrote a really good piece on why people watch horror movies.


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mowbs wrote:
stephen king wrote a really good piece on why people watch horror movies.



I would like to read said piece if you have a link.

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 Post subject: Re: hey horror movie fans, are we sick people?
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Shit, I didn't think I'd find it, but here we go

Stephen King wrote:
WHY WE CRAVE HORROR MOVIES
Playboy, 1982

I think that we’re all mentally ill; those of us outside the asylums only hide it a little better-and maybe not all that much better, after all. We’ve all known people who talk to themselves, people who sometimes squinch their faces into horrible grimaces when they believe no one is watching, people who have some hysterical fear-of snakes, the dark, the tight place, the long drop...and, of course, those final worms and grubs that are waiting so patiently underground.

When we pay our four or five bucks and seat ourselves at tenth-row center in a theater showing a horror movie, we are daring the nightmare,.

Why? Some of the reasons are simple and obvious. To show that we can, that we are not afraid, that we can ride this roller coaster. Which is not to say that a really good horror movie may not surprise a scream out of us at some point, the way we may scream when the roller coaster twists through a complete 360 or plows through a lake at the bottom of the drop. And horror movies, like roller coasters, have always been the special province of the young; by the time one turns 40 or 50, one’s appetite for double twists or 360-degree loops may be considerably depleted.

We also go to re-establish our feelings of essential normality; the horror movie is innately conservative, even reactionary. Freda Jackson as the horrible melting woman in DIE, MONSTER, DIE! confirms for us that no matter how far we may be removed from the beauty of a Robert Redford or a Diana Ross, we are still light-years from true ugliness.

And we go to have fun.

Ah, but this is where the ground starts to slope away, isn’t it? Because this is a very peculiar sort of fun indeed. The fun comes from seeing others menaced-sometimes killed. One critic has suggested that if pro football has become the voyeur’s version of combat, then the horror film has become the modern version of the public lynching.

It is true that the mythic, "fairytale" horror film intends to take away the shades of gray...It urges us to put away our more civilized and adult penchant for analysis and to become children again, seeing things in pure blacks and whites. It may be that horror movies provide psychic relief on this level because this invitation to lapse into simplicity, irrationality and even outright madness is extended so rarely. We are told we may allow our emotions a free rein,...or no rein at all.

If we are all insane, then sanity becomes a matter of degree. If your insanity leads you to carve up women like Jack the Ripper or the Cleveland Torso Murderer, we clap you away in the funny farm (but neither of those two amateur-night surgeons was ever caught, heh-heh-heh); if, on the other hand your insanity leads you only to talk to yourself when you’re under stress or to pick your nose on your morning bus, then you are left alone to go about your business...though it is doubtful that you will ever be invited to the best parties.

The potential lyncher is in almost all of us (excluding saints, past and present; but then, most saints have been crazy in their own ways), and every now and then, he had to be let loose to scream and roll around in the grass. Our emotions and our fears form their own body, and we recognize that it demands its own exercise to maintain proper muscle tone. Certain of these emotional muscles are accepted - even exalted - in civilized society; they are, of course, the emotions that tend to maintain the status quo of civilization itself. Love, friendship, loyalty, kindness - these are all the emotions that we applaud, emotions that have been immortalized in the couplets of Hallmark cards and in the verses (I don’t care call it poetry) of Leonard Nimoy.

When we exhibit these emotions, society showers us with positive reinforcement; we learn this even before we get out of diapers. When, as children, we hug our rotten little puke of a sister and give her a kiss, all the aunts and uncles smile and twit and cry, "Isn’t he the sweetest little thing?" Such coveted treats as chocolate-covered graham crackers often follow. But if we deliberately slam the rotten little puke of a sister’s fingers in the door, sanctions follow-angry remonstrance from parents, aunts and uncles; instead of a chocolate-covered graham cracker, a spanking.

But anticivilization emotions don’t go away, and they demand periodic exercise. We have such "sick" jokes as, "What’s the difference between a truckload of bowling ball and a truckload of dead babies? (You can’t unload a truckload of bowling balls with a pitchfork...a joke, by the way, that I heard originally from a ten-year-old.) Such a joke may surprise a laugh or a grin out of us even as we recoil, a possibility that confirms the thesis: If we share a brotherhood of man, then we also share an insanity of man. None of which is intended as a defense of either the sick joke or insanity but merely as an explanation of why the best horror films, like the best fairy tales, mange to be reactionary, anarchistic, and revolutionary all at the same time.

The mythic horror movie, like the sick joke, has a dirty job to do. It deliberately appeals to all that is worst in us. It is morbidity unchained, our most base instincts let free, our nastiest fantasies realized...and it all happens, fittingly enough, in the dark. For those reasons, good liberals often shy away from horror films. For myself, I like to see the most aggressive of the - DAWN OF THE DEAD, for instance - as lifting a trap door in the civilized forebrain and throwing a basket of raw meat to the hungry alligators swimming around in that subterranean river beneath.

Why bother? Because it keeps them from getting out, man. It keeps them down there and me up here. It was Lennon and McCartney who said that all you need is love, and I would agree with that.

As long as you keep the gators fed.


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 Post subject: Re: hey horror movie fans, are we sick people?
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sixth sense is not a horror movie, nor is it that good of a movie, really

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bondcfh007 wrote:
sixth sense is not a horror movie, nor is it that good of a movie, really


boy meets ghost, ghost helps boy, boy helps ghost. It's a good story. On the same level as E.T.

That and M. Night knows how to write a ghost story

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TCM > Sixth Sense and the Exorcist

And I suppose to some people, yes we are, but fuck those people.



haha you're funny. I know funny and you're funny


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bondcfh007 wrote:
sixth sense is not a horror movie, nor is it that good of a movie, really


Truf.


For the record, I consider Exorcist horror and good horror at that.

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bondcfh007 wrote:
sixth sense is not a horror movie, nor is it that good of a movie, really


boy meets ghost, ghost helps boy, boy helps ghost. It's a good story. On the same level as E.T.

That and M. Night knows how to write a ghost story

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TCM > Sixth Sense and the Exorcist

And I suppose to some people, yes we are, but fuck those people.



haha you're funny. I know funny and you're funny


I'm going to be a stand up comedian.

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In a totally hetero/plutonic way, I love that Mercury guy.

If he goes to a thread before me, he pretty much types what I would say.

Wait a minute...

Is this place real?

Could he be me? Could I be him?

Am I in a coma in a bed somewhere making all of this up?





I am a self admitted sick fuck. I love everything gory and evil. There is no such thing as a good horror movie any more. I should qualify that by saying there is nothing that can shock or scare me anymore. Like most horror fans, I saw some slasher films way too early in my youth. I totally believe it scarred me for life. However, being a sick fuck, I like scars so this is a good thing. I have seen everything imaginable happen to the human body over the course of my life. From ultra-cheesy special effects laden gore-fests (Ricky-O The Story of Ricky) to snuff films, executions and suicides. I can literally watch all of this nastiness whilst eating a plate of pasta and drinking milk. The only thing I have to worry about is the milk squirting out of my nose from laughter.

The point I'm making is that I now have no expectations for horror films. I can literally count on 1 hand how many I have seen in the last few years that have left an impression. That's not to say that I dislike the genre anymore, I'm just too desensitised (and frankly impatient) to see it as anything more than a special effects showcase to treat the audience with the latest developments in prostheses or exploding heads. All but a few of my friends are embarassed to go to a theatre with me because I laugh out loud whenever there is some kind of splatter. The rest of the theatre closes their eyes or gasps but I slap my knee and guffah!

so in short, the answer to the question is yes.


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hahaha anti rules.

ps. randy: et sucks too

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bondcfh007 wrote:
hahaha anti rules.

ps. randy: et sucks too



Oh i hate et too, but the story is still good


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i think we're all pretty sick

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I enjoyed the King article. Maybe some of us just have more gators to feed than others.

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