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ericd102 wrote:
Meandering, pretentious crap?
blasphemy
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I loved the plantation scene. Added several more dimensions (political and historical) to the story, and the human interactions between Willard and the widowed woman fleshed out his character a bit more. The encounter with the French also helped account for his changing perspective. It was a nice bit of pacing, to slow the movie down and stabilize it before the climax, too.
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The_Crimson_King wrote:
ericd102 wrote:
glorified_version wrote:
ericd102 wrote:
Meandering, pretentious crap?
blasphemy
I don't think it is; I fall firmly in the first camp. I love this movie, but I'm curious to hear from those who don't.
The Thin Red Line--now that was pretentious meandering crap.
why? because he tried something different than tradtional war movies? i'll take that kind of pretentious crap anyday...
i remember seeing the thin red line shortly after saving private ryan and wanting to walk out of the theatre. i was so disappointed in the movie. i felt like the whole thing just dragged.
upon second viewing, it changed. you can't go in expecting the normal war movie. it's different. it's not about shoot-em-up. it's about how the shoot-em-up fucks you up.
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Best movie ever to me!!! But i want to see the "normal" version, i can only find the redux here.
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Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:23 pm Posts: 6165 Location: Mass
The_Crimson_King wrote:
ericd102 wrote:
glorified_version wrote:
ericd102 wrote:
Meandering, pretentious crap?
blasphemy
I don't think it is; I fall firmly in the first camp. I love this movie, but I'm curious to hear from those who don't.
The Thin Red Line--now that was pretentious meandering crap.
why? because he tried something different than tradtional war movies? i'll take that kind of pretentious crap anyday...
I have no problem with untraditional war movies (ie: kurtz's compound in apocalypse now), but there must have been a good hour of The Thin Red Line that consisted only of ambiguous voice-over ramblings on top of nature shots. At least in Apocalypse Now they make you believe what Kurtz is saying, half of The Thin Red Line it was like a poetry soundtrack set to a Discovery channel show about the rainforest (I exaggerate, but I'm making a point).
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ericd102 wrote:
I loved the plantation scene. Added several more dimensions (political and historical) to the story, and the human interactions between Willard and the widowed woman fleshed out his character a bit more. The encounter with the French also helped account for his changing perspective. It was a nice bit of pacing, to slow the movie down and stabilize it before the climax, too.
I thought was overtly pretentious and utterly useless and shoved the whole message of the movie down the throats of the audience.
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jwfocker wrote:
ericd102 wrote:
I loved the plantation scene. Added several more dimensions (political and historical) to the story, and the human interactions between Willard and the widowed woman fleshed out his character a bit more. The encounter with the French also helped account for his changing perspective. It was a nice bit of pacing, to slow the movie down and stabilize it before the climax, too.
I thought was overtly pretentious and utterly useless and shoved the whole message of the movie down the throats of the audience.
I don't see a single message coming out of that scene (and if one did, then the ending makes it a lot more ambiguous). And what about it was pretentious? It was people talking politics around a dinner table.
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I like the plantation scene but i agree is a bit weird for being very normal in a very surreal movie.
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