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Greatest movie ever?

I have just recently seen this classic for the first time ever, and I am curious to hear (read) what the rest of RM has to say about it.

To me, the actual story itself, while good, was far from amazing. As veiwer I never felt much of a connection to any of the characters, and I never had any sympathy for Mr Kane.

But the actualy filming itself blew me away. Every single shot, everyshadow, every single frame was absolutely perfect. I could have watched the whole thing without hearing any dialogue and still have had a gist of the mood of the characters.

and I didn't get the parakeet towards the end...

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I didn't see the last couple minutes of this film due to queer circumstance however I heard the final thing was like his sled in a fire or a snow globe or something. At the time it was enough for me to move on. Now I sit here feeling "wtf".


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i wish his sled was named "macguffin"

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i wish his sled was named "macguffin"


:lol:

Would that not be anachronistic though? When did Hitchcock coin that word?

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Hitchcock explained the term in a 1939 lecture at Columbia University:

"In regard to the tune [espionage intelligence encoded in music], we have a name in the studio, and we call it the 'MacGuffin'. It is the mechanical element that usually crops up in any story. In crook stories it is always the necklace and in spy stories it is always the papers."


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male fraud wrote:
Hitchcock explained the term in a 1939 lecture at Columbia University:

"In regard to the tune [espionage intelligence encoded in music], we have a name in the studio, and we call it the 'MacGuffin'. It is the mechanical element that usually crops up in any story. In crook stories it is always the necklace and in spy stories it is always the papers."


Ah, thanks. So not anachronistic at all then. :)

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It's definitely one of the greatest technical achievements in the history of film, though I do agree with your feelings of disconnection. It never really hit me emotionally.

Still, it's a very, very good film, and it gains a whole new perspective when you learn about its history with William Randolph Hearst. Welles was such a rebel.

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it does not rank with "the greats"
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male fraud wrote:
it does not rank with "the greats"
the shawshank redemption
coming to america
beetlejuice
d.c. cab

You're kidding, yes?

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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
male fraud wrote:
it does not rank with "the greats"
the shawshank redemption
coming to america
beetlejuice
d.c. cab

You're kidding, yes?


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male fraud wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
male fraud wrote:
it does not rank with "the greats"
the shawshank redemption
coming to america
beetlejuice
d.c. cab

You're kidding, yes?


not at all

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jwfocker wrote:
male fraud wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
male fraud wrote:
it does not rank with "the greats"
the shawshank redemption
coming to america
beetlejuice
d.c. cab

You're kidding, yes?


not at all

george orwell said: call me eric blair
:?:

Yyyeeeaaaahhhh....

If you ARE serious, The Shawshank Redemption is conventional static compared to Citizen Kane. Everything else on that list I'm still assuming is a joke.

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What about breakin' 2:electric bugaloo ?? or the wild bunch ??

Are we talking about Kane from a technical stand-point of "great film" ??


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male fraud wrote:
What about breakin' 2:electric bugaloo ?? or the wild bunch ??

Are we talking about Kane from a technical stand-point of "great film" ??

I still can't decide whether you are joking or not.

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i tend to agree with male fraud

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this is one of my favourite movies. it's just astounding, and very interesting when you read about hearst, as LV mentioned. plus it's from 1941. i mean, jesus.

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i tend to agree with male fraud


Me too, lenny. Me too.

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I mean....yeah, it was good.

Greatest ever? Hell no. Haven't these people ever heard of Wayne's World?

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To be honest, I'm not sure how anyone younger than 70 recognizes the movie's technical brilliance simply by watching the movie.

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