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I really, really dig the Iliad. There's just something about it. It's so beautiful to read, the characters are so epic, the scope so massive. The fact that it only concerns a portion of the Trojan War is really appealing as well, as is the theme of honor woven throughout.

Don't really know why I made this thread, other than that I love the Iliad. Maybe some of the english majors on the board will have more to discuss.

P.S.- The movie "Troy" dropped the ball completely by not including the gods and their meddling; it's half of what makes the story so interesting. And how any director could resist the amazing scene that Achilles fighting the river god would make is beyond me.

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Not an English Major, but I did study Homer for a bit in University, and I learned a hell of a lot from those books.
Haven't seen the movie. Don't know if I want to.


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Not an English Major, but I did study Homer for a bit in University, and I learned a hell of a lot from those books.
Haven't seen the movie. Don't know if I want to.


If I ever become a director, I plan to make a 11-hour, 3-volume version that contains the whole damn epic, including the gods, so that no one will ever even think another movie about the Trojan War existed. 8)

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I just took the final for my Greek Mythology and I can say it was one of the best classes I've ever taken. I plan on reading the Iliad over the break. Comments in a month. :D

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I love The Iliad. It used to be a goal of mine to adapt it into a movie. Once I found out they were making "Troy," I pretty much abandoned that goal. I didn't like the movie, though, so maybe a definitive Iliad film should still be made.

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Sorry to dissapoint, but I couldn't stomach the Iliad. I don't know what kind of english major I am, but I just don't dig epic poems. This and the Aenied were a bit of a snooze to me. I tried so hard to like it. I really did. I will say that Fitzgerald's translation is pretty delicious.

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Sorry to dissapoint, but I couldn't stomach the Iliad. I don't know what kind of english major I am, but I just don't dig epic poems. This and the Aenied were a bit of a snooze to me. I tried so hard to like it. I really did. I will say that Fitzgerald's translation is pretty delicious.


You do know English majors work with words and stuff, right?

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The Odyssey is excellent as well....I love both

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I love the Iliad. We tried to convince my classical teacher to take us on a field trip to see Troy just for the hell of it, but never did. I can't believe they took out the gods, they're way too involved. I'd love to see it made into a good film...

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Has anyone read Edith Hamilton's Mythology? It's an excellent reference - or a good introduction for people unfamiliar with mythology.

I was also disappointed with Troy. I think it would be extremely challenging, if not impossible, to make a great movie from the Illiad or the Odyssey. It just seems like it would be difficult to include the gods without making it cheesy. But maybe it just needs a better director, script, etc.!

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(My freshman year in college) I enjoyed reading The Iliad, as well as The Aenead (SP), but I especially enjoyed reading Dante's Inferno.


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Alex wrote:
BeBe wrote:
Sorry to dissapoint, but I couldn't stomach the Iliad. I don't know what kind of english major I am, but I just don't dig epic poems. This and the Aenied were a bit of a snooze to me. I tried so hard to like it. I really did. I will say that Fitzgerald's translation is pretty delicious.


You do know English majors work with words and stuff, right?


Are you serious?! No one gave me the memo. :cry:

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BeBe wrote:
Sorry to dissapoint, but I couldn't stomach the Iliad. I don't know what kind of english major I am, but I just don't dig epic poems. This and the Aenied were a bit of a snooze to me. I tried so hard to like it. I really did. I will say that Fitzgerald's translation is pretty delicious.


It's probably better to read them within the context of Greek and Roman civilizations classes. There is a lot going on there, and just reading them alone, without some other things being taught, leaves out a lot of things you might not pick up on or appreciate otherwise.


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Liz wrote:
Has anyone read Edith Hamilton's Mythology? It's an excellent reference - or a good introduction for people unfamiliar with mythology.

I was also disappointed with Troy. I think it would be extremely challenging, if not impossible, to make a great movie from the Illiad or the Odyssey. It just seems like it would be difficult to include the gods without making it cheesy. But maybe it just needs a better director, script, etc.!


All you would have to have to make a great Iliad movie is the money to fund it, the vision to power it, and the balls to go for it completely, on every single aspect.

If I ever get the means, it will be done. 8)

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Skywalker wrote:
BeBe wrote:
Sorry to dissapoint, but I couldn't stomach the Iliad. I don't know what kind of english major I am, but I just don't dig epic poems. This and the Aenied were a bit of a snooze to me. I tried so hard to like it. I really did. I will say that Fitzgerald's translation is pretty delicious.


It's probably better to read them within the context of Greek and Roman civilizations classes. There is a lot going on there, and just reading them alone, without some other things being taught, leaves out a lot of things you might not pick up on or appreciate otherwise.


Should I mention I read them for my Western Civ class?? :?

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BeBe wrote:
Should I mention I read them for my Western Civ class?? :?


heh, sorry, I misunderstood and thought you just meant you read them in an English class or something, removed from everything else related to the context of the poems and whatnot. I dunno, I like a lot of the messages and life-lessons in the story.


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