Unfortunately, it's so elementary, and the big time investors behind the drive in the stock market aren't so stupid. This isn't the false economy of 2000.
Not bad. I'd say there are too many handheld games, but the only portable I ever owned was old school Game Boy, so I wouldn't know how good the games are. Snake Eater in the top 10, though? What the fuck? I'm not sure if I remember seeing Street Fighter II either, which would be a crime if ti wasn't included. My personal #1 goes to Final Fantasy VII
first sports game on there is NFL 2K5? and 59?? also a WWF game beat out all other sports games.. maybe i overlooked something but that game is awful.. any madden is 10x better
wow just realized.. no NFL Blitz or NBA JAM! either.. but yet NFL street makes it..
maybe ive been playing the wrong games all of these years but ive never played a good game made by ESPN
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warcraft II and castlevania II both need to be on this list
and while they both did well GTA San Andreas and Vice City should be 1 and 2 respectively
A number of my friends did demonstrably worse in college because of golden eye so it deserves to be there, and I don't know about number 2, but chrono trigger was pretty damn amazing
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The ones I have played:
83. Paper Mario: 1000 Year Door
82. Super Mario I
56. The Legend Of Zelda
42. LoZ: Majora's Mask
41. Mario Kart DS
34. Super Mario World
33. Earthbound
30. Super Mario RPG
28. Super Smash Bros. Melee
26. LoZ: Wind Waker
21. Super Mario III (which should've been higher IMO... same with Super Mario World)
19. Super Mario 64
07. Goldeneye 007
05. LoZ: Link to the Past
01. LoZ: Ocarina of Time (agreed that this is the greatest ever!)
No Contra No Pilotwings for SNES No Top Gear No NHL games No Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat games
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Every Zelda game except for Zelda 2 made the list. OoT is almost 8 years old and still the best (adventure) game ever.
The biggest oversight is no Panzer Dragoon Saga. I realize it is ultra rare, however, it may be the best 32-bit game ever released. I'd take PD Saga over FF7 any day. Panzer Dragoon Orta (XBOX) is probably the best rail-shooter of all time and also overlooked.
The least deserving game on that list is Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2. Glitchier than the first installment. Since it was rushed to get on shelves an entire planet was removed which left some plot points unresolved. I enjoyed it but it's just a good game but not a classic.
I have the following from the list in my collection:
96. Eternal Darkness
95 Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2
94 Golden Sun
91 Splinter Cell
90 Soul Calibur II
89 Half Life
87 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II
83 Paper Mario: Thousand Year Door
82 Super Mario Brothers
81 Shenmue
80 Prince of Persia
77 Metroid Fusion
75 Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons
73 Legend of Zelda: Minish Cap
72 Jak 3
70 Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages
67 NCAA Football 2004
57 Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
56 Legend of Zelda
55 Metal Gear Solid 2
48 Burnout 3
47 Advance Wars
46 Grand Theft Auto 3
45 Ratchet and Clank: Going Commando
43 Jade Empire
42 Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
41 Mario Kart: DS
40 Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
38 Metroid Prime 2
37 Ninja Gaiden
35 Shadow of the Colosus
34 Super Mario World
31 Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
30 Super Mario Bros. RPG
29 Conker's Bad Fur Day
28 Super Smash Bros. Melee
27 Ratchet and Clank: Up Your Arsenal
26 Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
25 Halo 2
24 Metroid Prime
23 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
21 Super Mario Bros. 3
20 Final Fantasy VII
19 Super Mario 64
17 Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
16 Shenmue 2
15 Perfect Dark
14 Halo
13 Half Life 2
11 Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
10 Metal Gear Solid: Snake Eater
9 Metal Gear Solid
7 GoldenEye
6 Soul Calibur
5 Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
4 Super Metroid
3 Resident Evil 4
1 Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
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CopperTom wrote:
Every Zelda game except for Zelda 2 made the list. OoT is almost 8 years old and still the best (adventure) game ever.
The biggest oversight is no Panzer Dragoon Saga. I realize it is ultra rare, however, it may be the best 32-bit game ever released. I'd take PD Saga over FF7 any day. Panzer Dragoon Orta (XBOX) is probably the best rail-shooter of all time and also overlooked.
The least deserving game on that list is Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2. Glitchier than the first installment. Since it was rushed to get on shelves an entire planet was removed which left some plot points unresolved. I enjoyed it but it's just a good game but not a classic.
I have the following from the list in my collection: 96. Eternal Darkness 95 Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 94 Golden Sun 91 Splinter Cell 90 Soul Calibur II 89 Half Life 87 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II 83 Paper Mario: Thousand Year Door 82 Super Mario Brothers 81 Shenmue 80 Prince of Persia 77 Metroid Fusion 75 Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons 73 Legend of Zelda: Minish Cap 72 Jak 3 70 Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages 67 NCAA Football 2004 57 Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 56 Legend of Zelda 55 Metal Gear Solid 2 48 Burnout 3 47 Advance Wars 46 Grand Theft Auto 3 45 Ratchet and Clank: Going Commando 43 Jade Empire 42 Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 41 Mario Kart: DS 40 Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening 38 Metroid Prime 2 37 Ninja Gaiden 35 Shadow of the Colosus 34 Super Mario World 31 Grand Theft Auto: Vice City 30 Super Mario Bros. RPG 29 Conker's Bad Fur Day 28 Super Smash Bros. Melee 27 Ratchet and Clank: Up Your Arsenal 26 Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker 25 Halo 2 24 Metroid Prime 23 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 21 Super Mario Bros. 3 20 Final Fantasy VII 19 Super Mario 64 17 Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas 16 Shenmue 2 15 Perfect Dark 14 Halo 13 Half Life 2 11 Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 10 Metal Gear Solid: Snake Eater 9 Metal Gear Solid 7 GoldenEye 6 Soul Calibur 5 Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 4 Super Metroid 3 Resident Evil 4 1 Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
You need to get a copy of Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy III
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Unfortunately, it's so elementary, and the big time investors behind the drive in the stock market aren't so stupid. This isn't the false economy of 2000.
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