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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:28 pm 
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I only did the top categories. My predictions are bolded.


Best Picture

Atonement
Juno
Michael Clayton
No Country For Old Men
There Will Be Blood

Best Director

No Country For Old Men (The Coen Brothers)
There Will Be Blood (Paul Thomas Anderson)
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (Julian Schnabel)
Juno (Jason Reitman)
Michael Clayton (Tony Gilroy)

Best Actor

Viggo Mortenson (Eastern Promises)
Daniel Day-Lewis (There Will Be Blood)
Tommy Lee Jones (In the Valley of Elah)
Johnny Depp (Sweeney Todd)
George Clooney (Michael Clayton)

Best Actress

Cate Blanchett (Elizabeth: The Golden Age)
Julie Christie (Away From Her)
Marion Cotillard (La Vie En Rose)
Laura Linney (The Savages)
Ellen Page (Juno)

Best Supporting Actor

Casey Affleck (The Assassination of Jesse James) (he should win)
Javier Bardem (No Country For Old Men)
Philip Seymour Hoffman (Charlie Wilson's War)
Hal Holbrook (Into the Wild)
Tom Wilkinson (Michael Clayton)

Best Supporting Actress

Cate Blanchett (I'm Not There)
Ruby Dee (American Gangster)
Saoirse Ronan (Atonement)
Amy Ryan (Gone Baby Gone)
Tilda Swinton (Michael Clayton)

Best Original Screenplay

Juno
Lars and the Real Girl
Michael Clayton
Ratatouille
The Savages

Best Adapted Screenplay

There Will Be Blood
No Country For Old Men
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Away From Her
Atonement


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 Post subject: Re: Offical Oscar 2008
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i think for someone who's bitter with the academy you have some ideal canidates.... i think we're going to see more across the universes than we are going to see junos ect... usually i'm dissapointed from the nominations, and don't even care about the results since they are from a tainted pool

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 Post subject: Re: Offical Oscar 2008
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I could really care less about the Oscars. As far as I'm concerned, they're meaningless. That said, here's some more speculation for you from the good folks at CHUD.com:

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When Charlie Wilson's War screened last week to muted enthusiasm from critics, the 2007 awards season race was suddenly without a frontrunner. Actually, most prognosticators had already downgraded Mike Nichols's film based on an uncertain marketing push and (steadfastly denied) rumors of reshoots, but the picture's Oscar-friendly pedigree demanded too much respect. Also, Aaron Sorkin's screenplay had acquired a reputation over the years as a can't-miss proposition in the hands of the right director, and who does the witty/urbane thing better than Nichols? Regardless of the warning signs, Charlie Wilson's War was still the movie that would dictate the pace right out of the gate.

And its significant stumble has turned no fewer than fifteen films into hard-chargers. With some savvy campaigning, any of these movies could legitimately claim the Best Picture trophy on February 24th, 2008:

Atonement
No Country for Old Men
Into the Wild
The Kite Runner
Juno
Michael Clayton
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Sweeney Todd
Before the Devil Knows You're Dead
There Will Be Blood
American Gangster
The Great Debaters

And, of course, Charlie Wilson's War (which I will finally see for myself this Wednesday).

Compelling cases are also being made for 3:10 to Yuma, Once and, yes, even Hairspray, but voters would have to go chilly on a number of major contenders for this to occur.

In a year awash with greatness, nominating work as slipshod as Hairspray or as anonymous as 3:10 to Yuma would be tantamount to... what happened in 1999, when a decade-capping rush of brilliance was reduced to American Beauty, The Insider, The Cider House Rules, The Green Mile and The Sixth Sense. Of those five titles, only The Insider belonged; the other four were insultingly facile when compared to the audacious and complex likes of Eyes Wide Shut, Three Kings, Fight Club, Being John Malkovich and Election. And then there was the stunningly perfect Toy Story 2. We've discussed this before, right? Well, even after all of those words pondering the potential of 2007, the year has far exceeded my expectations.

It's hardly a surprise to find masterworks like I'm Not There, The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford and Redacted completely out of the running for Best Picture; though I think the first two are much more accessible than their reputation indicates, they still frustrate the passive viewer (which, in my limited experience, is an apt description of the average Academy voter). This doesn't excuse Warner Brothers' half-hearted Best Supporting Actor push for Casey Affleck in Jesse James; just because you don't get the movie doesn't mean you give up on the performance of the year (even if Michael Clayton's Tom Wilkinson has a much better chance of winning). But that's precisely what WB is doing; in lieu of unexpected heat from the various critics awards, Affleck's haunting portrayal is almost completely out of the running. Meanwhile, John Travolta is acquiring a bit of momentum for one of the year's most jarringly "off" performances in Hairspray.

And this is what puzzles me: how can anyone fall so hard for mediocrity (or worse) in a year when so much is exceptional? Who in their right mind makes room for 3:10 to Yuma when it would have a hard time snagging the fifth nomination in a weak year? It's a hostile (or maybe frightened) reaction to artistic transcendence, a demand for conventionality as sweet relief from all this maddening achievement. And while it's alarmist to suggest this, there is an outside possibility that even No Country for Old Men could get squeezed out of the top five.

As of right now, I can't see it happening; stars Josh Brolin and Javier Bardem have proven very adept at charming voters and journalists alike. But I will guarantee you this: the resolution of the film will absolutely keep it from winning Best Picture. The "Where's the Ending?" contingent is numerous and, oddly, quite proud of its ignorance. And if No Country for Old Men is in any kind of jeopardy, you can completely rule out P.T. Anderson's undeniable There Will Be Blood, which gets downright bonkers in its final moments. Voters will accept grim, but they aren't much for lunacy.

What this bodes for Daniel Day-Lewis's monumental performance (call it "the other performance of the year"), I'm not sure. Obviously, he gets nominated, but George Clooney's much more likable rapscallion could pull ahead if voters deem Daniel Plainview too repugnant. Opting for Clooney over Day-Lewis wouldn't qualify as a travesty per se, but it would reinforce my belief that the Academy prefers "tangible" to "ineffable".

The nice thing about the Oscar race is that we won't know much of anything until the SAG nominations are announced on December 20th, which leaves us close to three weeks of idle, imprecise speculation based on critics awards and top ten lists. This is the time for lobbying on behalf of the exceptional stuff the Academy doesn't want to watch (hopefully, these dolts will spend most of their waking hours re-reading Glenn Kenny's airtight explanation of No Country for Old Men's final scenes). And we'll believe we're making headway until this happens:

Best Picture

Atonement
The Kite Runner
Michael Clayton
The Great Debaters
Hairspray

You have been warned.

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 Post subject: Re: Offical Oscar 2008
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Atonement
The Kite Runner
Michael Clayton
The Great Debaters
Hairspray



I'm highly doubting that line up


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 Post subject: Re: Offical Oscar 2008
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I'm always interested to see who wins, but I usually forget a week later unless it's one of my favorite pictures or actors that win. I used to live for the Oscars, playing pools and the whole nine. Although this year I will be interested to see if Ed Vedder is nominated for best original song and if he performs at the show.

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 Post subject: Re: Offical Oscar 2008
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dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
I'm always interested to see who wins, but I usually forget a week later unless it's one of my favorite pictures or actors that win. I used to live for the Oscars, playing pools and the whole nine. Although this year I will be interested to see if Ed Vedder is nominated for best original song and if he performs at the show.



He put a lot of effort into it. I imagine he would.

Also, Johnny Greenwood's score for "There Will Be Blood"


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Gigantic :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Offical Oscar 2008
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Gigantic :roll:

:highfives disdain for oscars:

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Mercury wrote:
I could really care less about the Oscars. As far as I'm concerned, they're meaningless. That said, here's some more speculation for you from the good folks at CHUD.com:

Quote:
When Charlie Wilson's War screened last week to muted enthusiasm from critics, the 2007 awards season race was suddenly without a frontrunner. Actually, most prognosticators had already downgraded Mike Nichols's film based on an uncertain marketing push and (steadfastly denied) rumors of reshoots, but the picture's Oscar-friendly pedigree demanded too much respect. Also, Aaron Sorkin's screenplay had acquired a reputation over the years as a can't-miss proposition in the hands of the right director, and who does the witty/urbane thing better than Nichols? Regardless of the warning signs, Charlie Wilson's War was still the movie that would dictate the pace right out of the gate.

And its significant stumble has turned no fewer than fifteen films into hard-chargers. With some savvy campaigning, any of these movies could legitimately claim the Best Picture trophy on February 24th, 2008:

Atonement
No Country for Old Men
Into the Wild
The Kite Runner
Juno
Michael Clayton
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Sweeney Todd
Before the Devil Knows You're Dead
There Will Be Blood
American Gangster
The Great Debaters

And, of course, Charlie Wilson's War (which I will finally see for myself this Wednesday).

Compelling cases are also being made for 3:10 to Yuma, Once and, yes, even Hairspray, but voters would have to go chilly on a number of major contenders for this to occur.

In a year awash with greatness, nominating work as slipshod as Hairspray or as anonymous as 3:10 to Yuma would be tantamount to... what happened in 1999, when a decade-capping rush of brilliance was reduced to American Beauty, The Insider, The Cider House Rules, The Green Mile and The Sixth Sense. Of those five titles, only The Insider belonged; the other four were insultingly facile when compared to the audacious and complex likes of Eyes Wide Shut, Three Kings, Fight Club, Being John Malkovich and Election. And then there was the stunningly perfect Toy Story 2. We've discussed this before, right? Well, even after all of those words pondering the potential of 2007, the year has far exceeded my expectations.

It's hardly a surprise to find masterworks like I'm Not There, The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford and Redacted completely out of the running for Best Picture; though I think the first two are much more accessible than their reputation indicates, they still frustrate the passive viewer (which, in my limited experience, is an apt description of the average Academy voter). This doesn't excuse Warner Brothers' half-hearted Best Supporting Actor push for Casey Affleck in Jesse James; just because you don't get the movie doesn't mean you give up on the performance of the year (even if Michael Clayton's Tom Wilkinson has a much better chance of winning). But that's precisely what WB is doing; in lieu of unexpected heat from the various critics awards, Affleck's haunting portrayal is almost completely out of the running. Meanwhile, John Travolta is acquiring a bit of momentum for one of the year's most jarringly "off" performances in Hairspray.

And this is what puzzles me: how can anyone fall so hard for mediocrity (or worse) in a year when so much is exceptional? Who in their right mind makes room for 3:10 to Yuma when it would have a hard time snagging the fifth nomination in a weak year? It's a hostile (or maybe frightened) reaction to artistic transcendence, a demand for conventionality as sweet relief from all this maddening achievement. And while it's alarmist to suggest this, there is an outside possibility that even No Country for Old Men could get squeezed out of the top five.

As of right now, I can't see it happening; stars Josh Brolin and Javier Bardem have proven very adept at charming voters and journalists alike. But I will guarantee you this: the resolution of the film will absolutely keep it from winning Best Picture. The "Where's the Ending?" contingent is numerous and, oddly, quite proud of its ignorance. And if No Country for Old Men is in any kind of jeopardy, you can completely rule out P.T. Anderson's undeniable There Will Be Blood, which gets downright bonkers in its final moments. Voters will accept grim, but they aren't much for lunacy.

What this bodes for Daniel Day-Lewis's monumental performance (call it "the other performance of the year"), I'm not sure. Obviously, he gets nominated, but George Clooney's much more likable rapscallion could pull ahead if voters deem Daniel Plainview too repugnant. Opting for Clooney over Day-Lewis wouldn't qualify as a travesty per se, but it would reinforce my belief that the Academy prefers "tangible" to "ineffable".

The nice thing about the Oscar race is that we won't know much of anything until the SAG nominations are announced on December 20th, which leaves us close to three weeks of idle, imprecise speculation based on critics awards and top ten lists. This is the time for lobbying on behalf of the exceptional stuff the Academy doesn't want to watch (hopefully, these dolts will spend most of their waking hours re-reading Glenn Kenny's airtight explanation of No Country for Old Men's final scenes). And we'll believe we're making headway until this happens:

Best Picture

Atonement
The Kite Runner
Michael Clayton
The Great Debaters
Hairspray

You have been warned.




Are these guys always complete tools or is this a special occasion?

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 Post subject: Re: Offical Oscar 2008
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Best Film: NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN
Best Director: TIM BURTON, Sweeney Todd
Best Actor: GEORGE CLOONEY, Michael Clayton
Best Actress: JULIE CHRISTIE, Away From Her
Best Supporting Actor: CASEY AFFLECK, The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
Best Supporting Actress: AMY RYAN, Gone Baby Gone
Best Foreign Film: THE DIVING BELL AND THE BUTTERFLY
Best Documentary: BODY OF WAR
Best Animated Feature: RATATOUILLE
Best Ensemble Cast: NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN
Breakthrough Performance by an Actor: EMILE HIRSCH, Into The Wild
Breakthrough Performance by an Actress: ELLEN PAGE, Juno
Best Directorial Debut: BEN AFFLECK, Gone Baby Gone
Best Original Screenplay (tie):
DIABLO CODY, Juno and NANCY OLIVER, Lars and the Real Girl
Best Adapted Screenplay: JOEL COEN and ETHAN COEN, No Country For Old Men

Top Ten Films:
(In alphabetical order)
THE ASSASSINATION OF JESSE JAMES BY THE COWARD ROBERT FORD
ATONEMENT
THE BOURNE ULTIMATUM
THE BUCKET LIST
INTO THE WILD
JUNO
THE KITE RUNNER
LARS AND THE REAL GIRL
MICHAEL CLAYTON
SWEENEY TODD


I know I'm really pre mature with "There Will Be Blood" but I don't think the reviewers had a chance to see it yet


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I know I'm really pre mature with "There Will Be Blood" but I don't think the reviewers had a chance to see it yet


Then how can they make lists like this already? That always confused the hell out of me.

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dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
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I know I'm really pre mature with "There Will Be Blood" but I don't think the reviewers had a chance to see it yet


Then how can they make lists like this already? That always confused the hell out of me.



Yeah I don't know. We'll see what AFI picks on the 16th.


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Despite missing some movies, I'm glad to see some choices from the NBR. Clooney as best actor for Michael Clayton? That really, really makes me want to see it. I love Clooney.

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Despite missing some movies, I'm glad to see some choices from the NBR. Clooney as best actor for Michael Clayton? That really, really makes me want to see it. I love Clooney.


Yeah I don't know. If Clooney is nominated and wins again then that would prove Mercury's Chud.com article correct. I still don't agree with their top 5 line up but yeah.


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dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
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I know I'm really pre mature with "There Will Be Blood" but I don't think the reviewers had a chance to see it yet


Then how can they make lists like this already? That always confused the hell out of me.


children of men, the best picture of last year came out this late in the game, and got shat on for nominations, they got best editing, and best adapted screenplay, but of course no best director, best picture... remember the people voting are the academy, the ones who gave march of the penguins a best documentary win over murderball, and enronn smartest guys in the room.

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windedsailor wrote:
dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
I Hail Randy Moss wrote:
I know I'm really pre mature with "There Will Be Blood" but I don't think the reviewers had a chance to see it yet


Then how can they make lists like this already? That always confused the hell out of me.


children of men, the best picture of last year came out this late in the game, and got shat on for nominations, they got best editing, and best adapted screenplay, but of course no best director, best picture... remember the people voting are the academy, the ones who gave march of the penguins a best documentary win over murderball, and enronn smartest guys in the room.


But I think the Academy waits until the end of the year to make their picks. In fact they make their nominations next year. Their picks might suck sometimes but they at least wait until the year in films is done


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I Hail Randy Moss wrote:
windedsailor wrote:
dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
I Hail Randy Moss wrote:
I know I'm really pre mature with "There Will Be Blood" but I don't think the reviewers had a chance to see it yet


Then how can they make lists like this already? That always confused the hell out of me.


children of men, the best picture of last year came out this late in the game, and got shat on for nominations, they got best editing, and best adapted screenplay, but of course no best director, best picture... remember the people voting are the academy, the ones who gave march of the penguins a best documentary win over murderball, and enronn smartest guys in the room.


But I think the Academy waits until the end of the year to make their picks. In fact they make their nominations next year. Their picks might suck sometimes but they at least wait until the year in films is done


yeah, but a movie that's been around since the summer does have an advantage over one that's been around for a month for a few reasons... a lot of people in the academy dont see every movie or read every script. i worked for one, and the academy scripts they sent out just got put in our offices script collection (never went on his desk.) also a lot of the people in the academy are hollywood "bigshots" who don't have time for their wives let alone there academy screeners.

the longer a movies been out and talked about, the "better" it becomes in the mind of the public

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the academy is fucking retarded


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