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 Post subject: Alien3: Original Treatment
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On the Alien Quadrilogy, one of the special features on the Alien3 disc is the original story for Alien3, a "wooden planet" idea.

I'd recommend everyone who has the set watch this. It would've been a fascinating film.

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On the Alien Quadrilogy, one of the special features on the Alien3 disc is the original story for Alien3, a "wooden planet" idea.

I'd recommend everyone who has the set watch this. It would've been a fascinating film.


It definetly would have been interesting, but it would have pretty much destroyed the whole Alien mythos, with those half horse aliens, and stuff like that. Alien 3 ended up pretty terrible anyway, but I think they would have had trouble making that original concept film, with the technology at that time. The most interesting part of that documentary, is how hollywood producers can fuck up a film franchise. If they make another Alien film, I hope they either forget that the 3rd and 4th films ever happend, or tell it from the persepective of a completly different time, and place. Maybe have an unsuspecting crew land on the alien origin planet.

The idea to have Alien 3 on Earth would have maybe been cool to, but I think it would have ended up sort of cheesy. Having Aliens running up the Empire State building and shit like that.


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You know, I think they already killed the franchise with Alien vs. Predator. That was a big piece of shit right there.

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Lloyd Dobler wrote:
You know, I think they already killed the franchise with Alien vs. Predator. That was a big piece of shit right there.

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it wasnt that bad. maybe a little cheezy. i love these movies to much to hate anything that comes out of the franchise.


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Lloyd Dobler wrote:
You know, I think they already killed the franchise with Alien vs. Predator. That was a big piece of shit right there.

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it wasnt that bad. maybe a little cheezy. i love these movies to much to hate anything that comes out of the franchise.


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mikef wrote:
Lloyd Dobler wrote:
You know, I think they already killed the franchise with Alien vs. Predator. That was a big piece of shit right there.

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it wasnt that bad. maybe a little cheezy. i love these movies to much to hate anything that comes out of the franchise.


I couldn't bring myself to see it in the theatre, because of the director, and the PG-13 rating. It had such potential to be a great film and Fox fucked it up. I still enjoy the 3rd and 4th films, even with all of their flaws, but they took the series in a direction that just got kind of stupid and repetitive. I hope the franchise isn't dead.


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Personally, I loved how Alien3 turned out, it's a very emotional film, different from the rest of the series, which is why it is so misunderstood.

And there's no way I'm letting this thread turn into an AVP discussion. That movie never fucking happened.

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On your reccomendation I watched the Alien3 part of my boxset, and damn was it interesting. the wood planet plot sounded good, and the other special features pulled me right in also. then I watched the special ed. of the movie and thought it was LIGHT YEARS better then the theater version. I see why they cut it to shit. It was much slower & they developed more. I can see why the studio figured on the mindlessness of the crowd.

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On your reccomendation I watched the Alien3 part of my boxset, and damn was it interesting. the wood planet plot sounded good, and the other special features pulled me right in also. then I watched the special ed. of the movie and thought it was LIGHT YEARS better then the theater version. I see why they cut it to shit. It was much slower & they developed more. I can see why the studio figured on the mindlessness of the crowd.

Yeah, they really butchered the poor thing to death.

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If anyone read the comics I really liked how that story developed on Earth. I thought they had a great chance to do this after the 4th one where they crash the ship into earth.

Really another Alien could take place anytime and anyplace. I'd like to see a version where Aliens come early in man's history and are worked somehow into our past and our culture. Kind of like Stargate did.
Still haven't seen AvP, is it out on video yet?

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If anyone read the comics I really liked how that story developed on Earth. I thought they had a great chance to do this after the 4th one where they crash the ship into earth.

Really another Alien could take place anytime and anyplace. I'd like to see a version where Aliens come early in man's history and are worked somehow into our past and our culture. Kind of like Stargate did.
Still haven't seen AvP, is it out on video yet?

Whether the Alien films are good really depends on the director. The first three Alien films all had a very good director, but Alien Resurrection and AVP just had no chance with what they were given.

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looking back at this thread who would have guessed that AVP2 would make AVP look like bladerunner...

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man, it would be so easy to revitalize and make this franchise awesome again

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man, it would be so easy to revitalize and make this franchise awesome again


Remake? :twisted:

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I just watched Them for the first time in awhile. I forgot just how much they stole from that movie for Alien/Aliens.

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I know, that's why I did that.

How would you reboot it though? Just pretend that everything after 3 didn't happen? I saw an article posted recently that apparently Sigourney Weaver was all about doing another Alien movie before AVP came out, which effectively killed that idea forever.

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I know, that's why I did that.

How would you reboot it though? Just pretend that everything after 3 didn't happen? I saw an article posted recently that apparently Sigourney Weaver was all about doing another Alien movie before AVP came out, which effectively killed that idea forever.

i actually read a trilogy of books in high school called Earth Hive, which would totally make a bad ass set of movies. they even wrote Ripley's stupid ass into it, so that would have remained. Aliens come to earth, fuck shit up. Few evacuate, launch campaign to rid aliens.

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I know, that's why I did that.

How would you reboot it though? Just pretend that everything after 3 didn't happen? I saw an article posted recently that apparently Sigourney Weaver was all about doing another Alien movie before AVP came out, which effectively killed that idea forever.


I don't see why you have to include Ripley at all. It's not needed. There are dozens of great stories that can be told, and great characters to center them around. You've got the evil Weyland Yutani Corp, the uncontrollable deadly species, and a future sci-fi setting. Let a good screenwriter take a crack at it and line up a great director who knows compelling storytelling .. shake and serve.

But honestly, I don't think it'll ever happen. These things inevitably turn to shit because the filmmakers that matter are the ones interesting in creating the material early on, not adapting existing material to make a buck for a studio. That's where the Paul WS Andersons of the world come in. Regretfully, I think this stuff's time has passed.


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I know, that's why I did that.

How would you reboot it though?


Same way you reboot Batman?

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