Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:38 pm Posts: 2461 Location: Austin
I just saw the sneak preview of this and I really liked it.
I wanted to see it here, since Natalie Maines (lead singer of the Dixie Chicks) is from Lubbock. She's basically been completely rejected around here...funny isn't it? Buddy Holly was completed rejected here and now he's worshipped.
But anyways, I've never been into their music but this was a great documentary. It accomplished it's goal, which was to show how absurd this entire situation turned out to be - how one off the cuff statement garnered completely irrational and ridiculous responses from the American public.
P.S.
I also bought their latest album this summer and while country music isn't really my thing, this is front to back a good album.
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GrimmaceXX wrote:
PATS 38 GIANTS 10 - However I do see a chance the Pats letting it all hang out and scoring 56 or 63 points. Just realize that you will NEVER see a team like this again in your lifetime.... that is until next year...... 38-0
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:38 pm Posts: 2461 Location: Austin
Peeps wrote:
how was the reaction unwarranted?
Oh peeps. Start a thread in N&D, because I don't want this one getting moved over there. I'll be more than willing to debate it with you over there.
I'd like this thread to stay here because I want reactions from those that have actually seen the film.
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GrimmaceXX wrote:
PATS 38 GIANTS 10 - However I do see a chance the Pats letting it all hang out and scoring 56 or 63 points. Just realize that you will NEVER see a team like this again in your lifetime.... that is until next year...... 38-0
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:38 pm Posts: 2461 Location: Austin
Peeps wrote:
WhiteRider wrote:
Peeps wrote:
how was the reaction unwarranted?
Oh peeps. Start a thread in N&D, because I don't want this one getting moved over there. I'll be more than willing to debate it with you over there.
I'd like this thread to stay here because I want reactions from those that have actually seen the film.
youre the one who said it was unwarranted, i just asked why
I didn't say unwarranted. I said irrational and ridiculous. That's as far as I'm taking it here. PM me or start up a thread in N&D about it.
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GrimmaceXX wrote:
PATS 38 GIANTS 10 - However I do see a chance the Pats letting it all hang out and scoring 56 or 63 points. Just realize that you will NEVER see a team like this again in your lifetime.... that is until next year...... 38-0
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the chicks problem was their audience is 99% ignorant rednecks. the singer made a one sentance boring, uneventful comment and got shit on and will get shit on for the rest of their careers, while other entertainers like Vedder go far beyond that stuff and are'nt even an afterthought to most fo the world.
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:19 pm Posts: 39068 Location: Chapel Hill, NC, USA Gender: Male
I'll go with unwarranted. Why shouldn't an artist be allowed to speak between songs? And they're guaranteed the right to say whatever the fuck they want.
No one tells Toby Keith (or whoever) to shut up when he says whatever stupid, blantantly rightwing thing he says, especially the dimwits that would say that to the Dixie Chicks. In fact, I'm quite certain if I heckled Toby Keith during a "Go America" diatribe, I'd lose some teeth.
_________________ "Though some may think there should be a separation between art/music and politics, it should be reinforced that art can be a form of nonviolent protest." - e.v.
I'm not a country music fan, but my wife bought their latest CD (she had never previously purchased any of their music) and I have to admit that the song "Not ready to make nice" is pretty cool.
They pretty much have proven that they can make a point and still take the high road. Classy ladies.
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I'll go with unwarranted. Why shouldn't an artist be allowed to speak between songs? And they're guaranteed the right to say whatever the fuck they want.
No one tells Toby Keith (or whoever) to shut up when he says whatever stupid, blantantly rightwing thing he says, especially the dimwits that would say that to the Dixie Chicks. In fact, I'm quite certain if I heckled Toby Keith during a "Go America" diatribe, I'd lose some teeth.
noones saying they cant say what they did, but to complain about the backlash, well, go fuck yourself natalie or whatever her name is, if youre free to voice your displeasure, so are others
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Ilium wrote:
I'm not a country music fan, but my wife bought their latest CD (she had never previously purchased any of their music) and I have to admit that the song "Not ready to make nice" is pretty cool.
They pretty much have proven that they can make a point and still take the high road. Classy ladies.
The first time I heard that song it really raised my opinion of the band as a whole. Way to stick to your guns.
I was hoping to catch this doc. at the Woodstock Film Festival but was stuck working instead. Got some amazing reviews. Definitely going to check it out at some point.
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Ado at NBC over ad for Dixie Chicks film
10/27/2006 6:56 PM, AP David Bauder
The Dixie Chicks are again at the center of a controversy over the limits of opinionated talk. A film company said Friday that NBC wouldn't accept an advertisement for "Shut Up & Sing," a movie about the fuss created by Dixie Chick Natalie Maines' comment that she was ashamed President Bush was a fellow Texan. The network suggested the complaint may be a publicity stunt.
The movie premieres this weekend in New York and Los Angeles, and network affiliates in both those cities have run ads promoting it, according to the Weinstein Co., which is distributing the film.
The problem arose when the Weinstein Co. began conversations with networks about buying ads to be shown nationally, in anticipation of later wider release of the film.
The ad includes footage of the Iraq War, gives a brief background on Maines' 2003 comment made onstage in London, and shows Maines dismissing as "dumb" a comment made by Bush about the Dixie Chicks.
CBS has agreed to air the ad, a spokeswoman for the Weinstein Co. said. ABC and Fox have not given an answer while the CW and NBC rejected it. The film distributors said NBC explained it was because the ad disparaged President Bush.
"We were very surprised, especially because this is a movie that deals with the whole issue," said Gary Faber, head of marketing at Weinstein. He suggested that the statements made in the ad are not unlike the opinions offered by commentators on political talk shows.
But Alan Wurtzel, head of standards and practices at NBC, said it is network policy not to accept ads on issues of public controversy — like abortion or the war.
While the Weinstein Co. had shown NBC its ads, it had not inquired about buying commercial time, he said. Generally, when an ad is rejected, prospective advertisers return and work with the network on ways to make it acceptable — as was done with the Michael Moore film "Fahrenheit 9/11," he said.
But NBC heard nothing more from makers of "Shut Up & Sing" until portions of what NBC executives thought were confidential business correspondence showed up in a news release, he said.
"There was no attempt to come back and have a conversation," Wurtzel said. "There are times when some advertisers get more publicity for having their ad rejected."
The CW said a Weinstein representative discussed the ad with a low-level network official who questioned whether the network had the right programming to fit the ad.
"It was the beginning of a dialogue at a low level and it didn't get beyond that when they decided to go to the media about it," network spokesman Paul McGuire said.
The CW would accept the ad if commercial time was bought, he said.
_________________ "Though some may think there should be a separation between art/music and politics, it should be reinforced that art can be a form of nonviolent protest." - e.v.
The chicks are talented. I think they combined rock, pop, and country pretty well. I guess their attitudes became rock while their fans truly remained country. Perhaps they did not truly understand this, or perhaps they did not care.
If my fans were (presumably) 99% southern small-town folks, I'd probably keep my mouth shut about my political views, but then again I'm a wimp.
Of course it is interesting that the Chicks were not adored enough to change people's views or open their minds. I'm not sure if I find it comforting or disturbing.
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Quote:
Ado at NBC over ad for Dixie Chicks film
10/27/2006 6:56 PM, AP David Bauder
The Dixie Chicks are again at the center of a controversy over the limits of opinionated talk. A film company said Friday that NBC wouldn't accept an advertisement for "Shut Up & Sing," a movie about the fuss created by Dixie Chick Natalie Maines' comment that she was ashamed President Bush was a fellow Texan. The network suggested the complaint may be a publicity stunt.
The movie premieres this weekend in New York and Los Angeles, and network affiliates in both those cities have run ads promoting it, according to the Weinstein Co., which is distributing the film.
The problem arose when the Weinstein Co. began conversations with networks about buying ads to be shown nationally, in anticipation of later wider release of the film.
The ad includes footage of the Iraq War, gives a brief background on Maines' 2003 comment made onstage in London, and shows Maines dismissing as "dumb" a comment made by Bush about the Dixie Chicks.
CBS has agreed to air the ad, a spokeswoman for the Weinstein Co. said. ABC and Fox have not given an answer while the CW and NBC rejected it. The film distributors said NBC explained it was because the ad disparaged President Bush.
"We were very surprised, especially because this is a movie that deals with the whole issue," said Gary Faber, head of marketing at Weinstein. He suggested that the statements made in the ad are not unlike the opinions offered by commentators on political talk shows.
But Alan Wurtzel, head of standards and practices at NBC, said it is network policy not to accept ads on issues of public controversy — like abortion or the war.
While the Weinstein Co. had shown NBC its ads, it had not inquired about buying commercial time, he said. Generally, when an ad is rejected, prospective advertisers return and work with the network on ways to make it acceptable — as was done with the Michael Moore film "Fahrenheit 9/11," he said.
But NBC heard nothing more from makers of "Shut Up & Sing" until portions of what NBC executives thought were confidential business correspondence showed up in a news release, he said.
"There was no attempt to come back and have a conversation," Wurtzel said. "There are times when some advertisers get more publicity for having their ad rejected."
The CW said a Weinstein representative discussed the ad with a low-level network official who questioned whether the network had the right programming to fit the ad.
"It was the beginning of a dialogue at a low level and it didn't get beyond that when they decided to go to the media about it," network spokesman Paul McGuire said.
The CW would accept the ad if commercial time was bought, he said.
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:19 pm Posts: 39068 Location: Chapel Hill, NC, USA Gender: Male
Good flick.
So, yesterday, Oprah had O'Reilly on to talk about his efforts to keep sex offenders incarcerated (which is ironic in it's own way ...). It made me wonder what Oprah thinks of O'Reilly's statement about the Dixie Chicks, an obvious endorsement of violence against women.
"They don't know what they're talking about. Callow foolish women, who deserve to be slapped around."
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