Post subject: Movie: The Butterfly Effect (SPOILERS)
Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 5:52 pm
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That was the stupidest movie ending I've ever seen!!! He went back in time to when he was in the womb and strangled himself with the umbilical cord? Even for a movie about time travel, that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard!
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Post subject: Re: Movie: The Butterfly Effect (SPOILERS)
Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 6:48 pm
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B wrote:
That was the stupidest movie I've ever seen!!! He went back in time to when he was in the womb and strangled himself with the umbilical cord? Even for a movie about time travel, that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard!
im positive theres a thread already about this, but that was the directors cut you saw. in the theater i believe when he turned on the projector, it was a home movie of some birthday party where he went up to the girl and told her, if you ever talk to me, i will kill you and your parents, then years later, they each are walking down a busy street (NYC) and see each other and have a semi deja vu moment. I thought the movie was excellent and shows how if you could travel back in time to "fix" something, you can fuck it up even more
Post subject: Re: Movie: The Butterfly Effect (SPOILERS)
Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 6:53 pm
too drunk to moderate properly
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:19 pm Posts: 39068 Location: Chapel Hill, NC, USA Gender: Male
Peeps wrote:
B wrote:
That was the stupidest movie I've ever seen!!! He went back in time to when he was in the womb and strangled himself with the umbilical cord? Even for a movie about time travel, that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard!
im positive theres a thread already about this, but that was the directors cut you saw. in the theater i believe when he turned on the projector, it was a home movie of some birthday party where he went up to the girl and told her, if you ever talk to me, i will kill you and your parents, then years later, they each are walking down a busy street (NYC) and see each other and have a semi deja vu moment. I thought the movie was excellent and shows how if you could travel back in time to "fix" something, you can fuck it up even more
I tried to find a thread. I couldn't. I like that ending better. I wish I hadn't returned the DVD.
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The ending was too confusing for me, and didnt really make sense. But the idea of everything you do effects everyone else you come in contact with and so on and so on is very interesting.
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i thought the directors cut ending was great. it was kinda cheesy...but the idea of the fetus strangling itself is just way too dark to not think about it, you know? i thought it was cool.
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Too Big a Man Too Say wrote:
The ending was too confusing for me, and didnt really make sense. But the idea of everything you do effects everyone else you come in contact with and so on and so on is very interesting.
If that's what you want, you could just watch Sliding Doors.
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I have a problem with time travel movies in general.
If you see into the future, that's the future, you can't change it. If you could change it, then that's what you would have seen. Duh.
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NaiveAndTrue wrote:
I have a problem with time travel movies in general. If you see into the future, that's the future, you can't change it. If you could change it, then that's what you would have seen. Duh.
Don't most time travel movies touch that in one of two ways?
You see the future as your on path now, but if you change your path, that future can change.
You see your future and that's your future, nothing you do will ever change it, no matter what you think.
I'm sure someone on this board can post some examples of each. Until we actually manage to travel through time, who knows ....
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B wrote:
NaiveAndTrue wrote:
I have a problem with time travel movies in general. If you see into the future, that's the future, you can't change it. If you could change it, then that's what you would have seen. Duh.
Don't most time travel movies touch that in one of two ways?
You see the future as your on path now, but if you change your path, that future can change.
You see your future and that's your future, nothing you do will ever change it, no matter what you think.
I'm sure someone on this board can post some examples of each. Until we actually manage to travel through time, who knows ....
That's another thing - if it were possible to travel through time, wouldn't someone have come back and told us by now?!
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NaiveAndTrue wrote:
B wrote:
NaiveAndTrue wrote:
I have a problem with time travel movies in general. If you see into the future, that's the future, you can't change it. If you could change it, then that's what you would have seen. Duh.
Don't most time travel movies touch that in one of two ways?
You see the future as your on path now, but if you change your path, that future can change.
You see your future and that's your future, nothing you do will ever change it, no matter what you think.
I'm sure someone on this board can post some examples of each. Until we actually manage to travel through time, who knows ....
That's another thing - if it were possible to travel through time, wouldn't someone have come back and told us by now?!
No way, that's the whole point of the Butterfly Effect. Even if a butterfly flaps its wings differently it can completely change the series of events that creates our future. Remember how that company in T2 completely caused a nuclear war b/c they found that tiny little chip from the first terminator? Or how when Homer went back in time and smashed a dragonfly so it caused it to rain donuts?
They can't tell us about time travel b/c it could totally fuck up the future.
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If that's what you want, you could just watch Sliding Doors.
I got tricked into seeing that fucking movie. I had never heard of it, and this girl asked if I would see it with her. I asked what it was about and she told me it was a horror movie. About 30 minutes into it I was like "wait....what the fuck...?" Pissed me off.
Anyway, as for Butterfly Effect, I didn't think it was that bad. Not a movie that I'd buy or anything, but it was worth the time I took to watch it on Starz. I didn't even know about the directors cut and the fetus ending though.
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MitchCumstein wrote:
B wrote:
If that's what you want, you could just watch Sliding Doors.
I got tricked into seeing that fucking movie. I had never heard of it, and this girl asked if I would see it with her. I asked what it was about and she told me it was a horror movie. About 30 minutes into it I was like "wait....what the fuck...?" Pissed me off.
Anyway, as for Butterfly Effect, I didn't think it was that bad. Not a movie that I'd buy or anything, but it was worth the time I took to watch it on Starz. I didn't even know about the directors cut and the fetus ending though.
In the theatrical version, did they have the whole scene where the palm reader told him that he had no life line and "wasn't supposed to be there"? Then his mother tells him that she had two stillbirths before she had had him.
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If that's what you want, you could just watch Sliding Doors.
I got tricked into seeing that fucking movie. I had never heard of it, and this girl asked if I would see it with her. I asked what it was about and she told me it was a horror movie. About 30 minutes into it I was like "wait....what the fuck...?" Pissed me off.
Anyway, as for Butterfly Effect, I didn't think it was that bad. Not a movie that I'd buy or anything, but it was worth the time I took to watch it on Starz. I didn't even know about the directors cut and the fetus ending though.
In the theatrical version, did they have the whole scene where the palm reader told him that he had no life line and "wasn't supposed to be there"? Then his mother tells him that she had two stillbirths before she had had him.
No. The director's cut must be a very different version. The one I saw, at the end he told the girl to get away from him when they were kids and he came back and was roomates with the airplane kid (I forgot his name but the one who was freaked out in the original time line and sat in his room making model airplanes). Then they went and burned all his journals and pictures from chilhood. And as someone said before, it ended with him as a suit in New York and he passed the girl walking down the street and they kind of stopped and did double takes at each other..
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