This is a (sort of) review from an English journo in the us looking at the general reaction and i wanted to ask a few of our cousins from across the pond if they felt the same or were at all bothered about seeing this film?


"The news that Creation, Jon Amiel's biopic of Charles Darwin, made it all the way through the Toronto Film Festival - at which it was the opening-night feature - without securing an American distributor proves once and for all that the only kind of science the American religious right is prepared to put up with is science-fiction.

However, I'm astonished to learn that its producer, Jeremy Thomas, is "astonished" at the lukewarm American interest in the movie. The briefest glance at the low priority granted to science during the Bush administration is enough to show that - where objectively verifiable facts are concerned - the American right has taken a giant leap backwards, down to the knuckle-dragging, bulging-forehead stage of the evolutionary table. Just don't try telling these folks that their grandaddy was a chimp: they may have the smallest brains in America, but they also have the biggest guns.

All summer, thanks to the rancorous healthcare debate, we in the US have been favoured with an extended look right down the gullet - the yawning maw - of the fundamentalist American right. If we thought we had buried the hatreds of the past when we elected a black president a year ago, this summer was a salutary reminder that you just can't kill ignorance and religious bigotry, especially if large and wealthy corporations put their money behind it. This is a country where billionaires like Howard F Ahmanson Jr use their vast fortunes to inseminate such science-hating think-tanks as the Discovery Institute and the public-stoning-friendly Chalcedon Foundation - whose essential mission is, to quote Ahmanson himself, "The total integration of biblical law into our lives" (Handmaid's Tale alert!). People of this disposition cannot accept that we are somehow related to monkeys. You can say that about the new president, but not about the ape-like thugs shouting down US senators nationwide throughout August.

In contentedly secular Britain, meanwhile, Darwin's bicentenary has prompted a surge of national pride, which is perfectly appropriate when your country has produced the Einstein, the Galileo, the Turing of the natural sciences.

In America, the right has demonised On The Origin Of Species as if it were Mein Kampf ("Darwin: a racist, a bigot and 1800s naturalist whose legacy is mass murder" says Christian website Movieguide), with the result that a field theory condoned by 99% of scientists is only believed in by a paltry 43% of US citizens.

It's therefore a pity that no venturesome distributor was prepared to stand up at Toronto and make a killing on the facts: nothing sells movie tickets like a good controversy, and it's time we secularists stood up for what could potentially be our equivalent of The Passion Of The Christ."

Let me know what you think?!

as a Christian fundamentalist myself I can't wait to see this science fiction film.
don't have much time for make believe but I will give it a shot. Now where's my bible?

On a serious note this film should be in every single US theater.

ah i'm not all that interested in this. not because i don't have faith in evolution (believe me, i pray to it every day), but i just don't think this sounds all that interesting. then again i also don't really like sports movies and sports are my favorite thing on earth, so there you go.

Darwin is the god for atheists and scientists. I'm not seeing this bullcrap. Praise the Lord.

religion, the opiate of the masses, has no place in our society. praise government!

everyone knows jesus was way more controversial for his time than darwin for his.

thats cos jesus was apparently doing wacky things with no explanation,darwin was merely stating fact,scientific fact. i dont think its about who ca be more controversial,it should be about who is right and who actually existed? i think i know the answers to this one! hehe!

you're just defending your countryman. but jesus is the saviour of ALL mankind.

but i got your back. i pray for you and all others like you.

Haha, the Chalcedon Foundation. The longer a secular article goes on, the more likely it is that the heretic Rushdoony and his Federal Vision goons will make an appearance as an example of Christianity. Their greatest opponents are the Christian Right themselves, and they certainly aren't a good example of the religion.

In answer, Ray Comfort ejects this shit: http://www.livingwaters.com/index.php?o ... iew&id=383 even though I warned him to stop pontificating on a subject he knows nothing about.

Fred gives it a thumbs up!

I don't think that people are "bothered" about seeing the film. Theatrical distributors just didn't think that it was likely to be very profitable. This is another staid, British, Masterpiece theater style costume drama, collections are down this year, and the last Jane Austen production didn't rake in the bucks. It will probably eventually show up on A&E or PBS, and find the audience that would enjoy it.

Jesus the saviour of all mankind...you got any fossil data to back that up?

i'll see you non believers in hell

(from heaven)

if charles darwin got in more car chases, you'd see his movie hitting american movie theaters. that was his missed opportunity.

he could have managed a horse drawn carriage chase or a steam locomotive derailing.

nice fossil Rafa, you carbon date that???

i think this nailed it.