Post subject: Re: Film: Django Unchained (Tarantino's "Southern")
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:17 pm
Supersonic
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i was rooting for idris elba, but after hearing his stupid huntsville accent in the prometheus trailers, i'm not so sure i'd want him playing a southerner
Post subject: Re: Film: Django Unchained (Tarantino's "Southern")
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:02 pm
Unthought Known
Joined: Sat Dec 04, 2004 7:46 am Posts: 6099
First reviews are in.
Most love it, but the negative reviews come from people who call out the movie's messy, "novel"-like structure. I love that filmmakers are taking this "novel" approach ("The Tree of Life", "The Master"). They make for a more surprising, unpredictable story.
Post subject: Re: Film: Django Unchained (Tarantino's "Southern")
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:50 pm
Johnny Guitar
Joined: Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:34 pm Posts: 175 Location: Pennsylvania Gender: Male
I have not seen The Master or Tree of Life yet, so maybe I wasn't aware there was a novel-like movement sweeping through the film world. But that's exciting.
Come to think of it, most of P.T. Anderson's work I would call "novel-like".
Also, can we quickly think up a different term for "novel-like"? It just doesn't roll off the tongue.
But yes, I am excited for this movie. DiCaprio looks wicked.
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Post subject: Re: Film: Django Unchained (Tarantino's "Southern")
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:00 pm
Unthought Known
Joined: Sat Dec 04, 2004 7:46 am Posts: 6099
griffinxi wrote:
I have not seen The Master or Tree of Life yet, so maybe I wasn't aware there was a novel-like movement sweeping through the film world. But that's exciting.
Come to think of it, most of P.T. Anderson's work I would call "novel-like".
Also, can we quickly think up a different term for "novel-like"? It just doesn't roll off the tongue.
But yes, I am excited for this movie. DiCaprio looks wicked.
I can't think of anything. I'm being lazy.
I don't know if it's exactly a movement. I know that I started writing my screenplays with that structure three years ago in a class and my professor was tossing my pages in the garbage. Which was fine. I knew what he wanted, but I didn't consider what I was doing to be bad work. I'm just happy that respected filmmakers are following through with it. It's not the first time filmmakers have did it. It's more international. I'd argue that a lot of French New Wave movies have followed this structure.
Post subject: Re: Film: Django Unchained (Tarantino's "Southern")
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:31 pm
Johnny Guitar
Joined: Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:34 pm Posts: 175 Location: Pennsylvania Gender: Male
I Hail Randy Moss wrote:
griffinxi wrote:
I have not seen The Master or Tree of Life yet, so maybe I wasn't aware there was a novel-like movement sweeping through the film world. But that's exciting.
Come to think of it, most of P.T. Anderson's work I would call "novel-like".
Also, can we quickly think up a different term for "novel-like"? It just doesn't roll off the tongue.
But yes, I am excited for this movie. DiCaprio looks wicked.
I can't think of anything. I'm being lazy.
I don't know if it's exactly a movement. I know that I started writing my screenplays with that structure three years ago in a class and my professor was tossing my pages in the garbage. Which was fine. I knew what he wanted, but I didn't consider what I was doing to be bad work. I'm just happy that respected filmmakers are following through with it. It's not the first time filmmakers have did it. It's more international. I'd argue that a lot of French New Wave movies have followed this structure.
Maybe this question doesn't belong in this thread, but what would you say was the defining characteristic of that approach to crafting a screenplay? Less concern with three-act structure? Less active "plotting"?
It's been a long time since my screenwriting class in college. It was the only form of writing that I took no pleasure in. Maybe I just didn't understand the medium. Or maybe because my natural approach to the task would've been to create something a little less rigidly disciplined than Syd Field would've tolerated, something like you're describing.
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Post subject: Re: Film: Django Unchained (Tarantino's "Southern")
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:52 pm
Unthought Known
Joined: Sat Dec 04, 2004 7:46 am Posts: 6099
griffinxi wrote:
I Hail Randy Moss wrote:
griffinxi wrote:
I have not seen The Master or Tree of Life yet, so maybe I wasn't aware there was a novel-like movement sweeping through the film world. But that's exciting.
Come to think of it, most of P.T. Anderson's work I would call "novel-like".
Also, can we quickly think up a different term for "novel-like"? It just doesn't roll off the tongue.
But yes, I am excited for this movie. DiCaprio looks wicked.
I can't think of anything. I'm being lazy.
I don't know if it's exactly a movement. I know that I started writing my screenplays with that structure three years ago in a class and my professor was tossing my pages in the garbage. Which was fine. I knew what he wanted, but I didn't consider what I was doing to be bad work. I'm just happy that respected filmmakers are following through with it. It's not the first time filmmakers have did it. It's more international. I'd argue that a lot of French New Wave movies have followed this structure.
Maybe this question doesn't belong in this thread, but what would you say was the defining characteristic of that approach to crafting a screenplay? Less concern with three-act structure? Less active "plotting"?
It's been a long time since my screenwriting class in college. It was the only form of writing that I took no pleasure in. Maybe I just didn't understand the medium. Or maybe because my natural approach to the task would've been to create something a little less rigidly disciplined than Syd Field would've tolerated, something like you're describing.
To be honest, it was probably out of laziness. To work within a three act structure is tough work. Then again it also came from reading a lot of novels. I started picking up the classics. I started to blend the suspense and intrigue of movie scenes/sequences with the structure of a novel. I made sure whatever I wrote would be entertaining (at least to me) on screen, but it focused more on character and setting than it did on A to B to C plot.
I have a couple ideas for a standard Hollywood script, but for me they're the least interesting. But that's also tough, to make it interesting, yet suitable for a three act structure. Interesting in that the story has something to say, a social or philosophical commentary, and not just a mundane conflict to overcome.
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