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 Post subject: What's He Building in There?
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 Post subject: Re: What's He Building in There?
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changed it to a full run of what we have done, instead of a snippet. bump.

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i listened to the snippet but had nothing to say without a full go. will give a listen now. if it was there. or maybe its me.


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i like it, i would have actually liked more trumpet thru the whole thing

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 Post subject: Re: What's He Building in There?
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We did a take like that, but it got to be a bit much after a while. That whole intro area where there's no drums will have added percussion and horns. The trumpet most prominantely, but the alto sax and trombone as well.

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that sounds cool... you're probably right about it being a bit much, but right now it just gives me blue balls. maybe another sprinkling somewhere in there would help.

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I laugh at your darkening torqouis testes.

No, actually I'd like to try and get the track to a place where that absense isn't so severe. I'll repost it once the rest of the horns are mixed (tomorrow, probably), and we'll see if that extra 20 seconds of brass at the beginning fixes your sapphired sack.

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So, this isn't a cover?

Sounds cool, I'll have to check it when I'm not at work.


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McParadigmatWork wrote:
I laugh at your darkening torqouis testes.

No, actually I'd like to try and get the track to a place where that absense isn't so severe. I'll repost it once the rest of the horns are mixed (tomorrow, probably), and we'll see if that extra 20 seconds of brass at the beginning fixes your sapphired sack.

i look forward to ejaculating all over this thread

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 Post subject: Re: What's He Building in There?
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I'm really liking this. Keep up the cool work.

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Thanks.

Made some progress in mixing the horns tonight. Still trying to look through all the takes, but at least the dumping grounds for the final selections is all set in terms of how it fits in the mix.

Wanted to add percussion for the beginning, and couldn't make anything fit. Ended up at a music store fucking around with their congas. Wanted the big, low end ones...$300....eh....so we decided to try and mimic that sound. We muffled the lowest tom in the drum kit and Dan beat the shit out of it with his hands. Made for a cool building rumble. Another day or two of mixing and I can post a new version. We still have the final vocals to cut, an additional trombone part, and possibly a Hammond organ.

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 Post subject: Re: What's He Building in There?
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I'd buy this. I always liked the sound of a harmon mute.

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I dig that mute, too. Wish there was a way to have a lot more of it in there.

Downside right now is that I can't find any place additional for the trumpet to fit into the song without messing up the flow of it or sounding like a wankfest. I'd hoped for the intro, but that particular mute sounds a whole lot worse in with the other horns. I guess having as much as I do is still nice.

I'm not sure how I feel about the horns, honestly. When we cut the demo they sounded great, but in higher fidelity it all becomes a bit corny. Still, I don't think they hinder any more than they help and they're a big deal to the drummer, so that's probably a case of diplomacy leading the way.

I listened to the playback this morning, and that palmed floor tom didn't sound as...muffled....as I wanted. Sort of looking for that early 60's hand drums feel, but those were often recorded with low fidelity mics to keep them from taking up too much space in the mix. To mimic that sound, I cut all the highs and lows from the tom, and it sounds much better now.

This is getting to be a lot of work for one song. I'm having a blast.

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 Post subject: Re: What's He Building in There?
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I'm a former trumpet player, myself. I'm a bit biased towards it in most cases as I am with this case. I like how it creates something more in the latter stages of the song.

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 Post subject: Re: What's He Building in There?
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mecca2687 wrote:
I'm a former trumpet player, myself. I'm a bit biased towards it in most cases as I am with this case. I like how it creates something more in the latter stages of the song.


I'm inclined to agree. But it also, now, leaves me feeling like the first two verses are lacking and empty.

I'm really eager to get that intro mixed and put on here, because the advice and ideas are just really helping me figure this track out, so far. It's funny how I end up doing more experimenting when I'm trying to create something of a pop track than when I'm shooting for artsier stuff.

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McParadigmatWork wrote:
mecca2687 wrote:
I'm a former trumpet player, myself. I'm a bit biased towards it in most cases as I am with this case. I like how it creates something more in the latter stages of the song.


I'm inclined to agree. But it also, now, leaves me feeling like the first two verses are lacking and empty.


Wrong. It just means that there is a sense of building towards something in the song.

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You know, I'm probably going to stick with that, then, because heaven knows I'm past having fresh ears for this track by now, plus this is advice coming from a trumpet player.

I sure hope you're around to help me see my way through the intro, because it's driving me batshit crazy trying to figure what's wrong/missing/working. I was looking at the demo playlist last night, and I guess there are 14 songs still bookmarked for this project, many of whom are probably going to take just as much working on...I've got a long journey ahead. I don't know how I'm going to find time for the covers contest.

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I'm usually pretty terrible when it comes to helping someone analyze a song; my best friend has been making an EP and I really haven't offered up too much by the way of criticism and only a few suggestions that he actually tried out and liked. Regardless, I will offer any insight that may come to mind.

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The intro stuff is up. It'll take a second before you'll start to hear some of it, but give it 20 seconds and you'll start to get it. Really hoping for comments. This being the first track of the project, I'm hoping to start out with a clear goal that will carry over to the rest of the songs, and I figure that out to be at least partially inspired by feedback.

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