Last night I was listening to National Public Radio on my way home from class and the topic of "On Point" was America's returned desire for manners. The most poinant aspect of the debate was whether manners are necessary and good or if they're simply a "gentile cage" that people, especially women, put themselves in. It seems that during the 60s, lots of people suggested that you had to "be something you're not" when you follow the rules of etiquette. And so they were being true to themselves and being free of the chains that society had put on itself for so long. Okay... but has the pedulum swung too far? Are people more selfish and rude now than free and true?
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inadvertent imitation wrote:
We have a thread about each member's proudest fart.
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We have a thread about each member's proudest fart.
I understand that. So are you saying that the pendulum has in fact swung too far? Do we need to bring things back to a more respectable level? How do we do that and maintain things like the ideals of the women's lib movement? Do we have men pulling out chairs and holding doors and women wearing the appropriate gloves at appropriate functions? Or are we talking about something else here?
_________________ Outside the rain is tapping on the leaves
To me it sounds like they're applauding us
The quiet love we make
We have a thread about each member's proudest fart.
I understand that. So are you saying that the pendulum has in fact swung too far? Do we need to bring things back to a more respectable level? How do we do that and maintain things like the ideals of the women's lib movement? Do we have men pulling out chairs and holding doors and women wearing the appropriate gloves at appropriate functions? Or are we talking about something else here?
i think the pendulum has swung too far. especially if you're talking about things like customer service ettiquette or general office ettiquette. people are too rude to customers -- i see an increase in this more and more. and employees can be pretty rude in the workplace too. of course, i was just talking to a few people in the office about the titties i saw in the bar last night.
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Outsider wrote:
Last night I was listening to National Public Radio on my way home from class and the topic of "On Point" was America's returned desire for manners. The most poinant aspect of the debate was whether manners are necessary and good or if they're simply a "gentile cage" that people, especially women, put themselves in. It seems that during the 60s, lots of people suggested that you had to "be something you're not" when you follow the rules of etiquette. And so they were being true to themselves and being free of the chains that society had put on itself for so long. Okay... but has the pedulum swung too far? Are people more selfish and rude now than free and true?
i think that selfish and rude is free and true to most unfortunately.
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Outsider wrote:
inadvertent imitation wrote:
We have a thread about each member's proudest fart.
I understand that. So are you saying that the pendulum has in fact swung too far? Do we need to bring things back to a more respectable level? How do we do that and maintain things like the ideals of the women's lib movement? Do we have men pulling out chairs and holding doors and women wearing the appropriate gloves at appropriate functions? Or are we talking about something else here?
what do you crazy women swant anyways? Womens wanna be treated like a lady, but want equal rights as men? Cant have your cake and eat it too....womens want to be in teh military but not in teh draft.....thsi is why womens could be inferior, they are indecisive and greedy and want too much.....Ill field further questions about life and econmics via PM, thanks guys.
Last night I was listening to National Public Radio on my way home from class and the topic of "On Point" was America's returned desire for manners. The most poinant aspect of the debate was whether manners are necessary and good or if they're simply a "gentile cage" that people, especially women, put themselves in. It seems that during the 60s, lots of people suggested that you had to "be something you're not" when you follow the rules of etiquette. And so they were being true to themselves and being free of the chains that society had put on itself for so long. Okay... but has the pedulum swung too far? Are people more selfish and rude now than free and true?
i think that selfish and rude is free and true to most unfortunately.
I would disagree. There's a difference between biting your tongue and saying whatever you want. There's people's feelings to take into account. I think the mood of the 60s was free love. EVeryone loved everyone so the idea of breaking the chains was great. But nobody thought about what would happen when they weren't teaching their children to respect each other while at the same time being true to themselves.
_________________ Outside the rain is tapping on the leaves
To me it sounds like they're applauding us
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Outsider wrote:
inadvertent imitation wrote:
We have a thread about each member's proudest fart.
I understand that. So are you saying that the pendulum has in fact swung too far? Do we need to bring things back to a more respectable level? How do we do that and maintain things like the ideals of the women's lib movement? Do we have men pulling out chairs and holding doors and women wearing the appropriate gloves at appropriate functions? Or are we talking about something else here?
This is assuming I let my female counterparts out of the kitchen for more than 15 minutes at a time.
We have a thread about each member's proudest fart.
I understand that. So are you saying that the pendulum has in fact swung too far? Do we need to bring things back to a more respectable level? How do we do that and maintain things like the ideals of the women's lib movement? Do we have men pulling out chairs and holding doors and women wearing the appropriate gloves at appropriate functions? Or are we talking about something else here?
This is assuming I let my female counterparts out of the kitchen for more than 15 minutes at a time.
Very true. Females should be fertile, kitchen savy and they should make a mean cocktail.
_________________ Outside the rain is tapping on the leaves
To me it sounds like they're applauding us
The quiet love we make
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Outsider wrote:
Anaranae wrote:
Outsider wrote:
Last night I was listening to National Public Radio on my way home from class and the topic of "On Point" was America's returned desire for manners. The most poinant aspect of the debate was whether manners are necessary and good or if they're simply a "gentile cage" that people, especially women, put themselves in. It seems that during the 60s, lots of people suggested that you had to "be something you're not" when you follow the rules of etiquette. And so they were being true to themselves and being free of the chains that society had put on itself for so long. Okay... but has the pedulum swung too far? Are people more selfish and rude now than free and true?
i think that selfish and rude is free and true to most unfortunately.
I would disagree. There's a difference between biting your tongue and saying whatever you want. There's people's feelings to take into account. I think the mood of the 60s was free love. EVeryone loved everyone so the idea of breaking the chains was great. But nobody thought about what would happen when they weren't teaching their children to respect each other while at the same time being true to themselves.
i know plenty of people that know how to be polite and tactful, they just choose not to be. if they weren't taught it in the first place, that's something different.
_________________ And one day, I will understand computers and I will be the Supreme Being!
We have a thread about each member's proudest fart.
I understand that. So are you saying that the pendulum has in fact swung too far? Do we need to bring things back to a more respectable level? How do we do that and maintain things like the ideals of the women's lib movement? Do we have men pulling out chairs and holding doors and women wearing the appropriate gloves at appropriate functions? Or are we talking about something else here?
This is assuming I let my female counterparts out of the kitchen for more than 15 minutes at a time.
Very true. Females should be fertile, kitchen savy and they should make a mean cocktail.
i'm going to fashion some sort of throne for you in michigan.
Last night I was listening to National Public Radio on my way home from class and the topic of "On Point" was America's returned desire for manners. The most poinant aspect of the debate was whether manners are necessary and good or if they're simply a "gentile cage" that people, especially women, put themselves in. It seems that during the 60s, lots of people suggested that you had to "be something you're not" when you follow the rules of etiquette. And so they were being true to themselves and being free of the chains that society had put on itself for so long. Okay... but has the pedulum swung too far? Are people more selfish and rude now than free and true?
i think that selfish and rude is free and true to most unfortunately.
I would disagree. There's a difference between biting your tongue and saying whatever you want. There's people's feelings to take into account. I think the mood of the 60s was free love. EVeryone loved everyone so the idea of breaking the chains was great. But nobody thought about what would happen when they weren't teaching their children to respect each other while at the same time being true to themselves.
i know plenty of people that know how to be polite and tactful, they just choose not to be. if they weren't taught it in the first place, that's something different.
Okay. How about this... do those people go to a fancy restaurant and wear jeans, sneakers and a wife beater? Do they talk about elephant shit and how big it gets? Or do they say, oh man I'm in a pretty nice place, I think I can talk about something else for 2 hours?
_________________ Outside the rain is tapping on the leaves
To me it sounds like they're applauding us
The quiet love we make
We have a thread about each member's proudest fart.
I understand that. So are you saying that the pendulum has in fact swung too far? Do we need to bring things back to a more respectable level? How do we do that and maintain things like the ideals of the women's lib movement? Do we have men pulling out chairs and holding doors and women wearing the appropriate gloves at appropriate functions? Or are we talking about something else here?
This is assuming I let my female counterparts out of the kitchen for more than 15 minutes at a time.
Very true. Females should be fertile, kitchen savy and they should make a mean cocktail.
i'm going to fashion some sort of throne for you in michigan.
I have no idea why women were bitching so much in the 60s.
_________________ Outside the rain is tapping on the leaves
To me it sounds like they're applauding us
The quiet love we make
We have a thread about each member's proudest fart.
I understand that. So are you saying that the pendulum has in fact swung too far? Do we need to bring things back to a more respectable level? How do we do that and maintain things like the ideals of the women's lib movement? Do we have men pulling out chairs and holding doors and women wearing the appropriate gloves at appropriate functions? Or are we talking about something else here?
This is assuming I let my female counterparts out of the kitchen for more than 15 minutes at a time.
Very true. Females should be fertile, kitchen savy and they should make a mean cocktail.
i'm going to fashion some sort of throne for you in michigan.
I have no idea why women were bitching so much in the 60s.
We have a thread about each member's proudest fart.
I understand that. So are you saying that the pendulum has in fact swung too far? Do we need to bring things back to a more respectable level? How do we do that and maintain things like the ideals of the women's lib movement? Do we have men pulling out chairs and holding doors and women wearing the appropriate gloves at appropriate functions? Or are we talking about something else here?
This is assuming I let my female counterparts out of the kitchen for more than 15 minutes at a time.
Very true. Females should be fertile, kitchen savy and they should make a mean cocktail.
i'm going to fashion some sort of throne for you in michigan.
I have no idea why women were bitching so much in the 60s.
i find hairy legs appealing
*quits*
_________________ Outside the rain is tapping on the leaves
To me it sounds like they're applauding us
The quiet love we make
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