i really dont get the negativity. its not like its just hip hop acts and pearl jam. x is a punk rock band, d'angelo is a soul singer, dirty projectors are a rock band. its a decent mix of artists so far. but lets still hope wu tang is involved somehow.
IMHO, Pearl Jam sticks out like a sore thumb in that line-up. Jay, Drake, D'Angelo are all good performers, still at the top of their games, but they are pop music. Pearl Jam are the token nostalgia middle-age suburbanite act in line-up and I don't think that is how most of us see them (maybe, more accurately want to see them). I have no problem mixing in different music styles in a show, it's one of the things that kept Lollapolooza interesting, but those particular acts don't appeal to a lot of PJ fans. Plus this a blatantly corporate driven event, with the obnoxious "Made In America" tag line, and InBev isn't even an American company.
...And it's just a disappointment after seeing a solid tour of Canada, a long overdue tour of SA, and a great tour plan for Europe that we are stuck with a third festival set.
Post subject: Re: MADE IN AMERICA FESTIVAL - Philadelphia, September 1-2, 2012
Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 3:01 pm
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broken iris wrote:
Rocky Estoppel wrote:
warehouse wrote:
i really dont get the negativity. its not like its just hip hop acts and pearl jam. x is a punk rock band, d'angelo is a soul singer, dirty projectors are a rock band. its a decent mix of artists so far. but lets still hope wu tang is involved somehow.
IMHO, Pearl Jam sticks out like a sore thumb in that line-up. Jay, Drake, D'Angelo are all good performers, still at the top of their games, but they are pop music. Pearl Jam are the token nostalgia middle-age suburbanite act in line-up and I don't think that is how most of us see them (maybe, more accurately want to see them). I have no problem mixing in different music styles in a show, it's one of the things that kept Lollapolooza interesting, but those particular acts don't appeal to a lot of PJ fans. Plus this a blatantly corporate driven event, with the obnoxious "Made In America" tag line, and InBev isn't even an American company.
...And it's just a disappointment after seeing a solid tour of Canada, a long overdue tour of SA, and a great tour plan for Europe that we are stuck with a third festival set.
they dont stick out any more than any other festival. they are the token headlining 90s act. every festival has one, and usually only one or two.
Post subject: Re: MADE IN AMERICA FESTIVAL - Philadelphia, September 1-2, 2012
Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 4:48 pm
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I don't see all the fuss about the pair. Some festivals combine one style of music so you can overdose on it and some combine a variety of styles so that you can try new stuff. This is the latter.
Pearl Jam fans will probably get good seating b/c a lot of Jay-Z fans will wonder off or leave outright when PJ takes the stage.
The average Jay-Z fan is probably less dangerous than that nut that got drunk and thrown out of half the PJ shows on the 2006 tour or that dude who called Jeff Ament's house.
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Post subject: Re: MADE IN AMERICA FESTIVAL - Philadelphia, September 1-2, 2012
Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 5:15 pm
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The past few years I have joked with my friends that I would love to see Pearl Jam and Odd Future together... Who'd have ever though that it would actually happen. I think this is a kick ass show.
Post subject: Re: MADE IN AMERICA FESTIVAL - Philadelphia, September 1-2, 2012
Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 7:13 pm
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Rumor I hear is it's going to be a bit of an Obama rally (which def makes sense why they had our mayor announce a music fest). That would kinda explain why PJ would bother show up.
But really, $100+ to stand on the parkway, staring at backs and elbows while maybe hearing the songs I usually leave to pee during and "Fortunate Son"?
Meh. Maybe if I can work the event and make some money while I'm there.
Post subject: Re: MADE IN AMERICA FESTIVAL - Philadelphia, September 1-2, 2012
Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 8:03 pm
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NaiveAndTrue wrote:
But really, $100+ to stand on the parkway, staring at backs and elbows while maybe hearing the songs I usually leave to pee during and "Fortunate Son"?
Meh.
My sentiments EXACTLY. Tickets are now approaching $175 (including the service fee)...so yeah, I'm not going. Have priorities and this isn't one of them.
Post subject: Re: MADE IN AMERICA FESTIVAL - Philadelphia, September 1-2, 2012
Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 8:39 pm
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msdizzydolores wrote:
AndySlash wrote:
msdizzydolores wrote:
Still debating about going. Feeling like I did when they were here to close out the Spectrum - feel out of place (racially)
wat
I'm a black female.
Totally get why you'd feel that wAy at the Spectrum but don't you agree with the folks who said with this lineup in Philly, it shouldn't be an issue? Do you think all the non-whites are gonna bolt before PJ ? If so that'd be a damned shame, b/c I really think they WILL open some people's eyes and ears and hearts at this show... People who wouldn't have listened before get hit with them live and BAM! Some of them, maybe not the majority but some, are gonna feel it to their core. And I think thats why PJ is doing this. To encourage those who have the potential to discover how moved they can be by other genres.
Post subject: Re: MADE IN AMERICA FESTIVAL - Philadelphia, September 1-2, 2012
Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 8:43 pm
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yofismom wrote:
msdizzydolores wrote:
AndySlash wrote:
msdizzydolores wrote:
Still debating about going. Feeling like I did when they were here to close out the Spectrum - feel out of place (racially)
wat
I'm a black female.
Totally get why you'd feel that wAy at the Spectrum but don't you agree with the folks who said with this lineup in Philly, it shouldn't be an issue? Do you think all the non-whites are gonna bolt before PJ ? If so that'd be a damned shame, b/c I really think they WILL open some people's eyes and ears and hearts at this show... People who wouldn't have listened before get hit with them live and BAM! Some of them, maybe not the majority but some, are gonna feel it to their core. And I think thats why PJ is doing this. To encourage those who have the potential to discover how moved they can be by other genres.
Yeah, but right now funds are tight. If I can work it out financially I will get my ticket and go. But as I said, I do not want to support JayZ or Anheuser Busch.
Post subject: Re: MADE IN AMERICA FESTIVAL - Philadelphia, September 1-2, 2012
Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 11:24 pm
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He could've tuned in, tuned in But he tuned out A bad time, nothing could save him Alone in a corridor, waiting, locked out He got up outta there, ran for hundreds of miles He made it to the ocean, had a smoke in a tree The wind rose up, set him down on his knee
You know I, thug 'em, fuck 'em, love 'em, leave 'em Cause I don't fuckin' need 'em Take 'em out the hood, keep 'em looking good But I don't fuckin feed 'em First time they fuss I'm breezing Talking 'bout, "What's the reasons?" I'm a pimp in every sense of the word, bitch Better trust and believe 'em In the cut where I keep 'em 'til I need a nutt, 'til I need to beat the guts Then it's "beep beep" and I'm picking them up Let 'em play with the dick in the truck
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Post subject: Re: MADE IN AMERICA FESTIVAL - Philadelphia, September 1-2, 2012
Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 11:36 pm
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NaiveAndTrue wrote:
Rumor I hear is it's going to be a bit of an Obama rally (which def makes sense why they had our mayor announce a music fest). That would kinda explain why PJ would bother show up.
I long for the good old days when Pearl Jam didn't pander to the Democrats.
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Post subject: Re: MADE IN AMERICA FESTIVAL - Philadelphia, September 1-2, 2012
Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 12:08 am
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
NaiveAndTrue wrote:
Rumor I hear is it's going to be a bit of an Obama rally (which def makes sense why they had our mayor announce a music fest). That would kinda explain why PJ would bother show up.
I long for the good old days when Pearl Jam didn't pander to the Democrats.
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Post subject: Re: MADE IN AMERICA FESTIVAL - Philadelphia, September 1-2, 2012
Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 12:16 am
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dprival78 wrote:
He could've tuned in, tuned in But he tuned out A bad time, nothing could save him Alone in a corridor, waiting, locked out He got up outta there, ran for hundreds of miles He made it to the ocean, had a smoke in a tree The wind rose up, set him down on his knee
You know I, thug 'em, fuck 'em, love 'em, leave 'em Cause I don't fuckin' need 'em Take 'em out the hood, keep 'em looking good But I don't fuckin feed 'em First time they fuss I'm breezing Talking 'bout, "What's the reasons?" I'm a pimp in every sense of the word, bitch Better trust and believe 'em In the cut where I keep 'em 'til I need a nutt, 'til I need to beat the guts Then it's "beep beep" and I'm picking them up Let 'em play with the dick in the truck
Wow, is that second one from one of Eddie's solo albums or something?
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Post subject: Re: MADE IN AMERICA FESTIVAL - Philadelphia, September 1-2, 2012
Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 12:24 am
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bart d. wrote:
dprival78 wrote:
He could've tuned in, tuned in But he tuned out A bad time, nothing could save him Alone in a corridor, waiting, locked out He got up outta there, ran for hundreds of miles He made it to the ocean, had a smoke in a tree The wind rose up, set him down on his knee
You know I, thug 'em, fuck 'em, love 'em, leave 'em Cause I don't fuckin' need 'em Take 'em out the hood, keep 'em looking good But I don't fuckin feed 'em First time they fuss I'm breezing Talking 'bout, "What's the reasons?" I'm a pimp in every sense of the word, bitch Better trust and believe 'em In the cut where I keep 'em 'til I need a nutt, 'til I need to beat the guts Then it's "beep beep" and I'm picking them up Let 'em play with the dick in the truck
Wow, is that second one from one of Eddie's solo albums or something?
you havent heard him do given to fly on the uke?
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Post subject: Re: MADE IN AMERICA FESTIVAL - Philadelphia, September 1-2, 2012
Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 12:27 am
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warehouse wrote:
bart d. wrote:
dprival78 wrote:
He could've tuned in, tuned in But he tuned out A bad time, nothing could save him Alone in a corridor, waiting, locked out He got up outta there, ran for hundreds of miles He made it to the ocean, had a smoke in a tree The wind rose up, set him down on his knee
You know I, thug 'em, fuck 'em, love 'em, leave 'em Cause I don't fuckin' need 'em Take 'em out the hood, keep 'em looking good But I don't fuckin feed 'em First time they fuss I'm breezing Talking 'bout, "What's the reasons?" I'm a pimp in every sense of the word, bitch Better trust and believe 'em In the cut where I keep 'em 'til I need a nutt, 'til I need to beat the guts Then it's "beep beep" and I'm picking them up Let 'em play with the dick in the truck
Wow, is that second one from one of Eddie's solo albums or something?
you havent heard him do given to fly on the uke?
Oh, is it sort of like when GnR did Rocket Queen live and added the rap section?
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