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 Post subject: Setlist Credibility
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:30 am 
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I was thinking today that so many people judge a particular show on setlist alone. I'm certainly guilty of it myself at times but I wonder what is it we're looking for? Do you agree that certain songs automatically make you think a show is good or bad. Does the perfect setlist actually exist?

For example songs like In Hiding, Sad, Faithfull, In My Tree, Smile, Tremor Christ, Satan's Bed all have huge setlist cred in my eyes and if the show opens with Release it's almost guaranteed to be great but on the flip side if they play Last Kiss, The Fixer, maybe Just Breathe, Comeback, or Inside Job and open with Small Town, that setlist looks like shit on paper to most people (myself included).

Oh and also rarities, Using the Vancouver show as an example, should I have been happy to see Bee Girl performed for the second time, because I wasn't. How about a rarity like Man Of The Hour or Hard To Imagine or Can't Keep. I don't know I just think they could do much better with the rarities they choose to play but it probably has a lot to do with the fans wanting to hear stupid shit because it's so rare.


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 Post subject: Re: Setlist Credibility
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 Post subject: Re: Setlist Credibility
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here's a setlist i made, let's see if it's credible or
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incredible, lol


Long Road
Do the Evolution
Last Exit
Even Flow
Sad
Can't Keep
Parachutes
Severed Hand
Comatose
Brain of J
Faithfullll
No Way
In My Tree
Hard to Imagine
Smile
Gonna See My Friend
Animal
Corduroy
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Light Years
Immortality
Improv w/Neil Young
I Got Shit w/Neil Young
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 Post subject: Re: Setlist Credibility
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Wow, lol , I should lay off the pipe for awhile!
Thanks for playing though, that setlist has a tonne of cred in my books.


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 Post subject: Re: Setlist Credibility
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This has never been discussed before, so I'm glad someone finally brought it up.

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 Post subject: Re: Setlist Credibility
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YOu forgot this for total fan-boy setlist cred:

Immortality / Extended Jam

and swap Parachutes for Force of Nature
and maybe Present Tense instead of Light Years?

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Ok, here's one of my favorite shows (if you guess the date/venue then good for you), you tell me if it has setlist credibility:

Set 1
Release
Hail, Hail
Animal
Even Flow
Given To Fly
Corduroy
MFC
Habit
Faithfull
Daughter (Beginning to See The Light) (W.M.A.)
Wishlist
Nothingman
Immortality
Rearviewmirror
Brain Of J.
Black
Do The Evolution

Encore 1
Breath
State Of Love And Trust
Off He Goes
Leatherman
Better Man (Save it for Later)
Mankind
Baba O'Riley

Encore 2
Indifference
Alive

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 Post subject: Re: Setlist Credibility
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I think the openers make a huge difference for me for "setlist cred."

I'm really glad I've never been to a show that's opened with Small Town. Severed Hand is probably my least favorite one I've seen. I'd probably avoid listening to boots that start with either one of those, unless I've heard they were really good.


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southp wrote:
Ok, here's one of my favorite shows (if you guess the date/venue then good for you), you tell me if it has setlist credibility:

Set 1
Release
Hail, Hail
Animal
Even Flow
Given To Fly
Corduroy
MFC
Habit
Faithfull
Daughter (Beginning to See The Light) (W.M.A.)
Wishlist
Nothingman
Immortality
Rearviewmirror
Brain Of J.
Black
Do The Evolution

Encore 1
Breath
State Of Love And Trust
Off He Goes
Leatherman
Better Man (Save it for Later)
Mankind
Baba O'Riley

Encore 2
Indifference
Alive

9/11/98. Easy.

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 Post subject: Re: Setlist Credibility
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
southp wrote:
Ok, here's one of my favorite shows (if you guess the date/venue then good for you), you tell me if it has setlist credibility:

Set 1
Release
Hail, Hail
Animal
Even Flow
Given To Fly
Corduroy
MFC
Habit
Faithfull
Daughter (Beginning to See The Light) (W.M.A.)
Wishlist
Nothingman
Immortality
Rearviewmirror
Brain Of J.
Black
Do The Evolution

Encore 1
Breath
State Of Love And Trust
Off He Goes
Leatherman
Better Man (Save it for Later)
Mankind
Baba O'Riley

Encore 2
Indifference
Alive

9/11/98. Easy.


I could totally live with that setlist, but this one is my personal favorite:

Set:
Rearviewmirror
Whipping
Go
Animal
Dissident
Even Flow
Why Go
Jeremy
Glorified G
Daughter/(ABitW-II)/(WMA)
Blood
Last Exit
Black
Alive
Porch/(Dirty Frank)
enc 1:
Sonic Reducer
Not for You
Elderly Woman
Rockin’ in the Free World
enc 2:
Indifference
enc 3:
Throw Your Arms Around Me (Ed solo)


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 Post subject: Re: Setlist Credibility
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:34 pm 
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St Pete's 94?

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 Post subject: Re: Setlist Credibility
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i thought it was an aussie show...maybe the one grohl showed up at

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 Post subject: Re: Setlist Credibility
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i thought it was an aussie show...maybe the one grohl showed up at

Nah dude, nothing beyond Vitalogy on that list.

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 Post subject: Re: Setlist Credibility
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Kevin Davis wrote:
St Pete's 94?


i think that's the winner


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 Post subject: Re: Setlist Credibility
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Kevin Davis wrote:
St Pete's 94?


Yep. I was there and it was simply awesome.

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 Post subject: Re: Setlist Credibility
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It's a great sounding boot, too--probably as good as I've ever heard from (what I suspect is) an audience recording.

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Kevin Davis wrote:
It's a great sounding boot, too--probably as good as I've ever heard from (what I suspect is) an audience recording.


I used to have it, but I lost it ages ago. I believe the bootleg was called "Hotpoint" and I probably paid $50 for it. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Setlist Credibility
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I've actually really liked seeing the sets and then guessing which show it was. I don't know if I should be proud or embarrassed that I knew both very quickly.

Hmmm...here's what I'm listening to currently, fairly easy to identify I believe:


Go, Corduroy, Grievance, State of Love and Trust, Tremor Christ, Elderly Woman, Insignificance, Last Exit, Animal, In My Tree, I Got Shit, (Romanza)/Better Man/(Save It For Later), Even Flow, Daughter/(WMA), Thin Air, Jeremy, Given To Fly, Rearviewmirror
enc 1: Nothing As It Seems, Last Kiss, Spin The Black Circle, Crazy Mary, Parting Ways
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When I really think about what separates a so-so setlist from a great one, it's the balance of how the songs flow together and the amount of material from Vitalogy through Binaural, the band's songwriting peak.


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