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 Post subject: Help finding webpage building sites
PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:16 pm 
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Happy Friday friends,

Like the title says...or maybe some sites that have examples of nicely built webpages. For the moment i wanted to create a non published webpage (I have hundreds of fishing photos that i have edited and wanted to make a cool looking webpage). I know html a little bit, but I wanted to see if you guys knew of a website that can help me out.

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 Post subject: Re: Help finding webpage building sites
PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:28 am 
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What do you mean by 'non published?'

First I would ask what you intend to do with the site and what features you are interested in.

- do you want something you can edit and update on the fly?
- are you more inclined to generate webpages (code) yourself?
- a simple online photo gallery?
- blog?
- will you be selling your images/photographs?


There are a couple of approaches to setting up your own website. Do it all yourself (which requires a lot of extra time learning how to go about it) or have someone do it for you (which could get costly).

Some things you should research if you intend to 'do-it-yourself' with only a bit of html knowledge:
-ftp software
-web page editor softwares (WYSIWYG + built in ftp functions)
-hosting options (server space sizes ie. megabytes - data storage allowances and data transfer allowances + alotted web traffic allowances) compared to the size of the site you are building
- linux platform hosting vs windows platform hosting
- domain registration options

Depending on who hosts your files they may offer click and install softwares to help you build a site.

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 Post subject: Re: Help finding webpage building sites
PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:30 pm 
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What do you mean by 'non published?'

First I would ask what you intend to do with the site and what features you are interested in.

- do you want something you can edit and update on the fly?
- are you more inclined to generate webpages (code) yourself?
- a simple online photo gallery?
- blog?
- will you be selling your images/photographs?


There are a couple of approaches to setting up your own website. Do it all yourself (which requires a lot of extra time learning how to go about it) or have someone do it for you (which could get costly).

Some things you should research if you intend to 'do-it-yourself' with only a bit of html knowledge:
-ftp software
-web page editor softwares (WYSIWYG + built in ftp functions)
-hosting options (server space sizes ie. megabytes - data storage allowances and data transfer allowances + alotted web traffic allowances) compared to the size of the site you are building
- linux platform hosting vs windows platform hosting
- domain registration options

Depending on who hosts your files they may offer click and install softwares to help you build a site.


Wow. That's a great reply, thanks for taking the time to do that. Honestly I don't know exactly what i want. I certainly want to learn more about the html language and scripts. For example, if you look at Brad Klausen's poster site, he has a very simple side bar with thumnails on the left, and when you click on them a larger version of the poster shows up in a main frame on the right. It's little features like this that I want to learn about in terms of the scripts.


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 Post subject: Re: Help finding webpage building sites
PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:34 pm 
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I looked at gigposters.com.
Let me give you an idea of how to go about learning how to put something like this together yourself.

http://w3schools.com/sitemap/sitemap_tutorials.asp

Start with a more in depth lesson on HTML
http://w3schools.com/html/default.asp

Then compare it with the preferred, XHTML
http://w3schools.com/xhtml/default.asp

a style sheets tutorial
http://w3schools.com/css/default.asp


All of these simply apply to the structure and design of a website.


Next:

Some basic TCP/IP (so you understand how information is passed back and forth between computers across the Internet)
http://w3schools.com/tcpip/default.asp

Chances are when you get to the point where you are introduced to having to utilize scripting all I can say is best of luck to you. :lol: Scripting is where it all starts to both come together and gets a lot more frustrating.

gigposters.com uses PHP



Basic Javascript (this tutorial will help get you familiar with the javascript you'll encounter if you used prepackaged software instead of scripting your own entirely from scratch)
http://w3schools.com/js/default.asp

DOM (Document Object Model /// this is a very important tutorial and javascript/scripts in general will start to make more sense when you get thru it - it has to do with how page elements are accessed by scripting languages for given effects or tasks)
http://w3schools.com/htmldom/default.asp

PHP (this is a scripting language, and is the language used to produce the gigposters site.)
http://w3schools.com/php/default.asp


Even if you don't plan on doing all the site programming yourself it's important to understand how programming languages work. There's a divide between programmers and web developers/designers. If you have a basic to intermediate programming knowledge you can 'build' websites that use scripting languages. You'll need a lot of help though if you're just getting started, so get yourself involved in a developers community online. Most 'open source' software offer a development forum for module development and support for those people using their software.


Another tip I have is google google google. Google first, then ask questions.


Good luck!

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 Post subject: Re: Help finding webpage building sites
PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 5:31 pm 
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thank you so much for all your help :)


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 Post subject: Re: Help finding webpage building sites
PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 6:08 pm 
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no problem.

Here's another couple of links


PHP
http://www.php.net/manual/en/

and something to be familiar with if you're getting into scripting
AJAX
http://www.xul.fr/en-xml-ajax.html

Why use Ajax?

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Mainly to build a fast, dynamic website, but also to save resources.
For improving sharing of resources, it is better to use the power of all the client computers rather than just a unique server and network. Ajax allows to perform processing on client computer (in JavaScript) with data taken from the server.
The processing of web page formerly was only server-side, using web services or PHP scripts, before the whole page was sent within the network.
But Ajax can selectively modify a part of a page displayed by the browser, and update it without the need to reload the whole document with all images, menus, etc...
For example, fields of forms, choices of user, may be processed and the result displayed immediately into the same page.

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 Post subject: Re: Help finding webpage building sites
PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:32 am 
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Here you go: http://www.oswd.org/

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