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Author:  corduroy_blazer [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Blackwater
Blackwater is the largest of the U.S. State Department's three private security contractors. At least 90 percent of Blackwater's revenue comes from American government contracts, two-thirds of which are no-bid. This broke yesterday:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/11/world ... anted=1&hp

Blackwater Said to Pursue Bribes to Iraq After 17 Died

WASHINGTON — Top executives at Blackwater Worldwide authorized secret payments of about $1 million to Iraqi officials that were intended to silence their criticism and buy their support after a September 2007 episode in which Blackwater security guards fatally shot 17 Iraqi civilians in Baghdad, according to former company officials.
Author:  glorified_version [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackwater
THE GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO CONTROL MY HEALTH CARE!!!
Author:  dkfan9 [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackwater
this firm and "curveball"

thus US govt should really stop trusting people and companies with suspicious sounding name
Author:  corduroy_blazer [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackwater
Blackwater is nothing compared to ACORN, though.
Author:  punkdavid [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackwater
Blackwater has changed their name to something less suspicious: Xe

No shit.

Nothing to see here... http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090817/scahill
Author:  glorified_version [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackwater
corduroy_blazer wrote:
Blackwater is nothing compared to ACORN, though.


I think you have it the other way around.
Author:  $úñ_DëV|L [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackwater
glorified_version wrote:
THE GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO CONTROL MY HEALTH CARE!!!


Maybe if you try to make it even more of a schtick, more people will listen.
Author:  dkfan9 [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackwater
corduroy_blazer wrote:
Blackwater is nothing compared to ACORN, though.

Acorn should be mocked for actually having an Acorn as their logo though.
Author:  Peeps [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackwater
dkfan9 wrote:
corduroy_blazer wrote:
Blackwater is nothing compared to ACORN, though.

Acorn should be mocked for actually having an Acorn as their logo though.



like ohio state
Author:  dkfan9 [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackwater
Peeps wrote:
dkfan9 wrote:
corduroy_blazer wrote:
Blackwater is nothing compared to ACORN, though.

Acorn should be mocked for actually having an Acorn as their logo though.



like ohio state

yeah also they're fucking assholes
Author:  punkdavid [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackwater
dkfan9 wrote:
Peeps wrote:
dkfan9 wrote:
corduroy_blazer wrote:
Blackwater is nothing compared to ACORN, though.

Acorn should be mocked for actually having an Acorn as their logo though.



like ohio state

yeah also they're fucking assholes

For the record, Buckeyes (the fruit/nut of the tree, whatever it is) smell like semen. We had a few on my college campus, and at certain times of year they reeked. We called them "the jizz trees".
Author:  LittleWing [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackwater
glorified_version wrote:
THE GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO CONTROL MY HEALTH CARE!!!


I find it mildly amusing that you will insinuate that this is actually more important and substantive than the government trying to control the healthcare system of America.
Author:  broken iris [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackwater
Blackwater pays really well for some jobs. You could earn ~$15k/month for computer/security tasks in Iraq a couple years ago. I'm just saying...
Author:  simple schoolboy [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackwater
Is there any particular reason why the military or some other specialized agency doesn't protect diplomats?
Author:  EllisEamos [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackwater
simple schoolboy wrote:
Is there any particular reason why the military or some other specialized agency doesn't protect diplomats?

b/c our country doesn't have enough soldiers to do it.
Author:  4/5 [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackwater
EllisEamos wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
Is there any particular reason why the military or some other specialized agency doesn't protect diplomats?

b/c our country doesn't have enough soldiers to it.

Because there is a lot of money to be made giving huge contracts to friends private companies.
Author:  Peeps [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackwater
i could be wrong here, maybe lw or bhed can confirm:

private firms arent held to the same standard as our military forces
Author:  glorified_version [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackwater
Xe sounds Orwellian
Author:  LittleWing [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackwater
There are two parts, the first part, as noted, is that contractors do not play by the same rules. But thankfully things are starting to level off. The actions of Blackwater, particularly in Baghdad, were having seriou s negative consequences to the broader mission.

The second part is politics. It's better politically to have news reports say you have 120,000 troops there with 60,000 secret unadvertised contractors on the ground filling in combat rolls and another 120,000 KBR employees than it is to have 300,000 troops on the ground.
Author:  EllisEamos [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackwater
LittleWing wrote:
It's better politically to have news reports say you have 120,000 troops there with 60,000 secret unadvertised contractors on the ground filling in combat rolls and another 120,000 KBR employees than it is to have 300,000 troops on the ground.

yeah, much better.
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