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 Post subject: Re: Dominique Strauss-Kahn rape charges
PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 2:12 pm 
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I dont believe in violence.

I do believe people are innocent until proven guilty.

but g2t he just might use the "consent" defense,

then what?

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 Post subject: Re: Dominique Strauss-Kahn rape charges
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It's much more likely they find a way to pay the maid 10+ Million dollars and she refuses to cooperate and the trial goes away.

That being said, if they use the consent angle, the only way the government will be able to prove it wasn't consent would be through physical evidence and/or a strict timetable of where she was before, during, after, showing a jury that there is no way it could have been consent given the way it went down.

If it was consensual, the defense is going to have to show how DSK met her, wooed her, etc, all in a matter of minutes. Also, why did he flee the hotel room leaving behind his cell phone if it was consensual?

There was an article I read yesterday in the WSJ that said the maid ran out of the room and collapsed and was crying and someone came to console her and DSK walked right past them as he exited the building immediately.

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NY Post, one step up from trash...but I do think this case will just go away.

Strauss-Kahn's pals bid to pay off woman's kin

By ORON DAN in Tel Aviv and LAURA ITALIANO and BOB FREDERICKS in NY
Last Updated: 11:55 AM, May 24, 2011
Posted: 1:29 AM, May 24, 2011

Friends of alleged hotel sex fiend Dominique Strauss-Kahn secretly contacted the accusing maid's impoverished family, offering them money to make the case go away since they can't reach her in protective custody, The Post has learned.

The woman, who says she was sexually assaulted by the disgraced former head of the International Monetary Fund, has an extended family in the former French colony of Guinea in West Africa, well out of reach of the Manhattan DA's Office.

"They already talked with her family," a French businesswoman with close ties to Strauss-Kahn and his family told The Post. "For sure, it's going to end up on a quiet note."

Prosecutors in Manhattan have done their best to keep the cleaning woman out of the reach of Strauss-Kahn's supporters, but the source was already predicting success for the Parisian pol's pals.

"He'll get out of it and will fly back to France. He won't spend time in jail. The woman will get a lot of money," said the source, adding that a seven-figure sum has been bandied about.

While the DA's office has sequestered the maid -- and is even monitoring her phone calls -- her extended family lives in a village that lacks paved roads, electricity and phone lines.

The average monthly income is $45, which is near-starvation, and some of her family members can't even afford shoes.

They live so off-the-grid in a remote village that they didn't know the maid was allegedly nearly raped until reporters trekked to the village to inform them.

The alleged victim, who lives with her 15-year-old daughter in The Bronx, came to the United States from Guinea several years ago after her husband died. She has received some financial help from her sister and brother-in-law living in New York.

The DA's office has warned local family members not to accept calls from associates of Strauss-Kahn. Even without the maid's testimony, however, prosecutors claim they have plenty of damning evidence to prosecute Strauss-Kahn, including her videotaped statement, grand-jury testimony, statements from fellow hotel employees and semen samples found on the hotel room carpet.

Strauss-Kahn, 62, remains under house arrest in a pricey lower Manhattan pad secured by his billionaire wife, Anne Sinclair. He must wear a GPS-enabled ankle bracelet and have armed guards to prevent him from escaping.

Meanwhile, in another development yesterday, it emerged that Strauss-Kahn allegedly shouted, "Do you know who I am?" as he assaulted the victim, according to a new report.

"Don't you know who I am? Don't you know who I am?" Strauss- Kahn repeatedly inquired during the incident, according to Fox News.

"Please, please stop. No!" she cried as he pinned her to the bed, law-enforcement sources said. "Please stop. I need my job, I can't lose my job, don't do this. I will lose my job. Please, please stop!"

In a heartless reply, Strauss-Kahn, allegedly told her, "No, baby. Don't worry, you're not going to lose your job," sources said, adding that he again repeated, "Don't you know who I am?"

While she begged him to stop, he allegedly pressed the attack, dragging her down the hall and forcing her to perform oral sex.

The maid finally escaped by pushing him into a piece of furniture in the $3,000-a-night Sofitel suite, she said. Sources said that the Frenchman has a gash on his back where he hit the armoire and that blood was found on the sheets.

Investigators also confirmed a DNA match between Strauss-Kahn and a semen sample found on the maid's shirt.


Meanwhile, Strauss-Kahn faces a deadline this morning to vacate the apartment at 71 Broadway where he's been under house arrest since he was sprung from Rikers on Friday.

He is now hunting for a townhouse so he doesn't have to deal with belligerent co-op and condo boards, and has a $50,000 monthly budget, sources said.

"He has been calling around, but no broker wants to work with him," a top broker said. "He wants to find a broker who will help secure a place for him with more privacy so he won't be harassed, and he is not particular about the neighborhood."

Additional reporting by Chuck Bennett, Helen Freund, Hannah Rappleye, Jennifer Gould Keil, Larry Celona, Jamie Schram and Post Wire Services

AFP/Getty ImagesThe family of the Guinean woman who says the former International Monetary Fund chief, Dominique Strauss-Kahn, tried to rape her in a New York hotel, in their home village of Tchiakoulle.

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 Post subject: Re: Dominique Strauss-Kahn rape charges
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I was gonna say something naughty.

but this is a serious situation...


gotta wait til the trial...

Im sure if the woman was confronted with money the cops would be charging him with somekind blackmail charge...

Im sure somethings are kept on record or testify to hush money.


however, what happens behind private doors of an attorney's office usually stays there... as a right of attorney client priviledge

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Apparently you have never heard of Kobe Bryant...

People pay off victims all the time. Although I'm not 100% sure Kobe raped that girl.

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given2trade wrote:
Apparently you have never heard of Kobe Bryant...

People pay off victims all the time. Although I'm not 100% sure Kobe raped that girl.

well? there is your answer...


"Although I'm not 100% sure"

a through investigation on both parts... wait til the facts are presented.

Im suprised, if the investigators wanted to have a tight case against this man they would have kept their mouths shut. Period.

Usually, a "railroad job" is vague on "facts" is over-rated and pumped up by the media and twists your objective view of a case.

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given2trade wrote:
Apparently you have never heard of Kobe Bryant...

People pay off victims all the time. Although I'm not 100% sure Kobe raped that girl.


She came up for the sex, just not the kind of sex that he wanted.

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Electromatic wrote:
given2trade wrote:
Apparently you have never heard of Kobe Bryant...

People pay off victims all the time. Although I'm not 100% sure Kobe raped that girl.


She came up for the sex, just not the kind of sex that he wanted.


Yah, that is probably the most likely scenario which of course is still rape.

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Electromatic wrote:
given2trade wrote:
Apparently you have never heard of Kobe Bryant...

People pay off victims all the time. Although I'm not 100% sure Kobe raped that girl.


She came up for the sex, just not the kind of sex that he wanted.

that is true

sometimes things can go "sour" with consentual sex and ideas about how a person preforms "sex" together is individually different...

but a person does reserve the right to say "no" at anytime during the "act"

sometimes that's where it gets tricky when proving rape cases

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Also, why did he flee the hotel room leaving behind his cell phone if it was consensual?




What now?


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Patrick Bateman wrote:
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Also, why did he flee the hotel room leaving behind his cell phone if it was consensual?




What now?

terrible argument

pfft...

have you not ever left a cell phone, car keys or whatever behind? People do it all the time guilty or not guilty...

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Patrick Bateman wrote:
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Also, why did he flee the hotel room leaving behind his cell phone if it was consensual?




What now?

terrible argument

pfft...

have you not ever left a cell phone, car keys or whatever behind? People do it all the time guilty or not guilty...

I couldnt even tell you how many times Ive had to break into my car or house because Ive forgotten my keys somewhere.

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Yes, I'm accusing the guy of rape solely because he left his cell phone behind at the hotel.

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Can someone other than Mr. Negative and Ms. Crazy post in this thread?

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Yes, I'm accusing the guy of rape solely because he left his cell phone behind at the hotel.

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Can someone other than Mr. Negative and Ms. Crazy post in this thread?



No, it's just that it appears he didnt actually flee at all. Stop assuming shit, you're not good at it.


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How bout this: Is it such a bad thing for the victim if she takes a big payday and lets the creep off the hook, legally at least? It's obviously awful for friends of justice, but what about her? What's better: Frenchie goes down in flames, spends a few years in prison or Frenchie walks but you and your family are set for life?

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Yes, I'm accusing the guy of rape solely because he left his cell phone behind at the hotel.

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Can someone other than Mr. Negative and Ms. Crazy post in this thread?



No, it's just that it appears he didnt actually flee at all. Stop assuming shit, you're not good at it.


Huh? It seems very clear he fled the hotel almost immediately. Numerous sources have quoted this. Yes, he didn't flee the country, but I never said that.

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How bout this: Is it such a bad thing for the victim if she takes a big payday and lets the creep off the hook, legally at least? It's obviously awful for friends of justice, but what about her? What's better: Frenchie goes down in flames, spends a few years in prison or Frenchie walks but you and your family are set for life?



If money is the ultimate goal, i guess you're right.


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Patrick Bateman wrote:
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Also, why did he flee the hotel room leaving behind his cell phone if it was consensual?




What now?


Oh, yah you did....

oh are we backtracking now Mr. G2t?

When putting a statement into a question you are trying to lead your reader into an ambigous statement as fact.

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given2trade wrote:
Patrick Bateman wrote:
given2trade wrote:
Yes, I'm accusing the guy of rape solely because he left his cell phone behind at the hotel.

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Can someone other than Mr. Negative and Ms. Crazy post in this thread?



No, it's just that it appears he didnt actually flee at all. Stop assuming shit, you're not good at it.


Huh? It seems very clear he fled the hotel almost immediately. Numerous sources have quoted this. Yes, he didn't flee the country, but I never said that.


Huh? Was he supposed to stay there until...until what exactly?


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How bout this: Is it such a bad thing for the victim if she takes a big payday and lets the creep off the hook, legally at least? It's obviously awful for friends of justice, but what about her? What's better: Frenchie goes down in flames, spends a few years in prison or Frenchie walks but you and your family are set for life?


She can still make millions off of a civil suit if he is found guilty criminally. In fact, the burden civilly is less than the burden criminally. (See O.J. Simpson)

So, yah, it's pretty bad if she let him off the hook if he did indeed rape her. Rape is probably the 2nd worst thing you can do to someone outside of kill them and I'm sure some rape victims would rather have been killed than live with the nightmare of their rape.

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