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Man in Black · **Joined:** Sun Oct 17, 2004 3:47 pm **Posts:** 2932

dimejinky99 wrote:

There's an x marked on the road at the spot where he was shot. Having stood on it and looked back at the book depository building, there's no way he made that shot. The fence on the grassy knoll is about 30 feet away on the right. It came from there I reckon.

Military industrial complex and the people that ran it had him taken out cis he was pulling out of Vietnam and they'd lose out on military spending. He gave a speech about the MIC not long before his death. Can't find it online. I'll keep looking.

Yah we've all seen the Oliver Stone movie.

It's an easy shot for a trained marksman.

Rebar · **Posted:** Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:11 pm

Man in Black wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

There's an x marked on the road at the spot where he was shot. Having stood on it and looked back at the book depository building, there's no way he made that shot. The fence on the grassy knoll is about 30 feet away on the right. It came from there I reckon.

Military industrial complex and the people that ran it had him taken out cis he was pulling out of Vietnam and they'd lose out on military spending. He gave a speech about the MIC not long before his death. Can't find it online. I'll keep looking.

Yah we've all seen the Oliver Stone movie.

It's an easy shot for a trained marksman.

This is where I was heading with my last post. May look a far way to the average person, but it is more than possible to a trained eye.

dimejinky99 · **Posted:** Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:12 pm

Ha he that kind of training though? And why such a crappy gun?

Rebar · **Posted:** Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:32 pm

If you want to talk about conspiracy and a Kennedy assasination, check this out:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/26/justice/c ... ?hpt=hp_t3

What about poor ol' Sirhan Sirhan?

The Rock · **Joined:** Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:59 pm **Posts:** 135

Didn't the gun have a faulty scope?

Man in Black · **Joined:** Sun Oct 17, 2004 3:47 pm **Posts:** 2932

dimejinky99 wrote:

Ha he that kind of training though? And why such a crappy gun?

Certified "sharpshooter" by the Marine corp.

NCO in charge of marksmanship training unit at the time: "In the Marine Corps he is a good shot, slightly above average,
and as compared to the average male throughout the United States, he is an excellent shot".

The FBI tested Oswald's rifle rigourously and found it to be "very accurate".
Also it had a low kickback which aids in rapid firing.
It's possible that Oswald had no idea of the Carcano's bad reputation, just bought it mail order to be as inconspicuous as possible.
The bottom line, however, is that this particular weapon was more than up for the task.

This information is taken from Gerald Posner's book "Case Closed", a must read for anyone who wants to call themselves "informed" about the JFK assasination.

EllisEamos · **Posted:** Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:54 pm

Man in Black · **Joined:** Sun Oct 17, 2004 3:47 pm **Posts:** 2932

EllisEamos wrote:

There are some excellent quotes in this piece:

"at some point you have to be honest with yourself, I don't care how much you want it, believe it, feel it, whatever else, at some point you have to say there is no evidence."

"it's very difficult [for some] to accept that someone as inconsequential as Oswald could have killed someone as consequential as Kennedy."

Green Habit · **Posted:** Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:56 pm

Man in Black wrote:

There are some excellent quotes in this piece:

"at some point you have to be honest with yourself, I don't care how much you want it, believe it, feel it, whatever else, at some point you have to say there is no evidence."

"it's very difficult [for some] to accept that someone as inconsequential as Oswald could have killed someone as consequential as Kennedy."

Furthermore, most of the people that attempted to assassinate a president have been rather inconsequential.

mray10 · **Posted:** Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:15 pm

"it is virtually not assimilable to our reason that a small lonely man felled a giant in the midst of his limousines, his legions, his throng, and his security. If such a non-entity destroyed the leader of the most powerful nation on earth, then a world of disproportion engulfs us, and we live in a universe that is absurd."

-Norman Mailer

Simple Torture · **Posted:** Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:27 pm

My father happened to be in Dallas on the 40th anniversary of the assassination (11/22/03) and went down to see all the crazies. He ended up having a conversation with Jesse "The Body" Ventura on the grassy knoll.

Orpheus · **Posted:** Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:02 pm

mray10 wrote:

"it is virtually not assimilable to our reason that a small lonely man felled a giant in the midst of his limousines, his legions, his throng, and his security. If such a non-entity destroyed the leader of the most powerful nation on earth, then a world of disproportion engulfs us, and we live in a universe that is absurd."

-Norman Mailer

What a fucking great quote.

corduroy_blazer · **Posted:** Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:19 am

Orpheus wrote:

mray10 wrote:

"it is virtually not assimilable to our reason that a small lonely man felled a giant in the midst of his limousines, his legions, his throng, and his security. If such a non-entity destroyed the leader of the most powerful nation on earth, then a world of disproportion engulfs us, and we live in a universe that is absurd."

-Norman Mailer

What a fucking great quote.

Yep. I think that sentiment drives a lot of the conspiracy thinking.

Man in Black · **Joined:** Sun Oct 17, 2004 3:47 pm **Posts:** 2932

corduroy_blazer wrote:

Orpheus wrote:

mray10 wrote:

"it is virtually not assimilable to our reason that a small lonely man felled a giant in the midst of his limousines, his legions, his throng, and his security. If such a non-entity destroyed the leader of the most powerful nation on earth, then a world of disproportion engulfs us, and we live in a universe that is absurd."

-Norman Mailer

What a fucking great quote.

Yep. I think that sentiment drives a lot of the conspiracy thinking.

Is that why you're a truther, then?

Electromatic · **Posted:** Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:18 pm

mray10 wrote:

"it is virtually not assimilable to our reason that a small lonely man felled a giant in the midst of his limousines, his legions, his throng, and his security. If such a non-entity destroyed the leader of the most powerful nation on earth, then a world of disproportion engulfs us, and we live in a universe that is absurd."

-Norman Mailer

Indeed we do live in a universe that is absurd.

4/5 · **Posted:** Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:11 pm

I still believe there was a 2nd shooter but that 99.999% of all the conspiracy theory stuff surrounding it is complete nonsense.

dkfan9 · **Posted:** Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:18 pm

Orpheus wrote:

mray10 wrote:

"it is virtually not assimilable to our reason that a small lonely man felled a giant in the midst of his limousines, his legions, his throng, and his security. If such a non-entity destroyed the leader of the most powerful nation on earth, then a world of disproportion engulfs us, and we live in a universe that is absurd."

-Norman Mailer

What a fucking great quote.

yeah. i think i'm stealing it for facebook.

cutuphalfdead · **Posted:** Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:19 pm

dkfan9 wrote:

Orpheus wrote:

mray10 wrote:

"it is virtually not assimilable to our reason that a small lonely man felled a giant in the midst of his limousines, his legions, his throng, and his security. If such a non-entity destroyed the leader of the most powerful nation on earth, then a world of disproportion engulfs us, and we live in a universe that is absurd."

-Norman Mailer

What a fucking great quote.

yeah. i think i'm stealing it for facebook.

A few weeks later?

dkfan9 · **Posted:** Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:20 pm

cutuphalfdead wrote:

dkfan9 wrote:

Orpheus wrote:

mray10 wrote:

"it is virtually not assimilable to our reason that a small lonely man felled a giant in the midst of his limousines, his legions, his throng, and his security. If such a non-entity destroyed the leader of the most powerful nation on earth, then a world of disproportion engulfs us, and we live in a universe that is absurd."

-Norman Mailer

What a fucking great quote.

yeah. i think i'm stealing it for facebook.

A few weeks later?

We can pretend.

Man in Black · **Joined:** Sun Oct 17, 2004 3:47 pm **Posts:** 2932

4/5 wrote:

I still believe there was a 2nd shooter but that 99.999% of all the conspiracy theory stuff surrounding it is complete nonsense.

I'd be willing to bet a fair amount of money that your theory is complete nonsense, also.

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