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Federal Judge Finds 2 Bodies In Her Home
Jurist was once targeted by white supremacist
A federal judge who was once targeted for death by a white supremacist leader found two people dead inside her Chicago home when she returned Monday evening, police said.
U.S. District Judge Joan Humphrey Lefkow found the bodies about 6 p.m. (7 p.m. ET), police spokesman Pat Camden said.
Local media reports said the victims were Lefkow's husband, attorney Michael F. Lefkow, and her mother, Donna Humphrey, 89.
Police offered no details.
In April 2004, white supremacist Matthew Hale was found guilty on charges that he tried to arrange Lefkow's murder. The judge, presiding over a trademark infringement suit, had ordered Hale's group to stop using the name World Church of the Creator, which belonged to another religious group with no ties to Hale.
He is scheduled to be sentenced on April 6.
After his conviction, the FBI sent an advisory to police agencies nationwide, warning about possible violence from Hale sympathizers, after an openly racist Web site posted the home address and phone number of an FBI informant who testified against him during the trial.
Law enforcement officials said the Web site had incorrectly identified the informant, posting the name and address of another man with the same name who had nothing to do with the case.
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I practice in front of Judge Lefkow several times a week and have friends that have clerked for her. I can say that what this poor woman has gone through since sitting for Matthew Hale's organization's trademark case has been horrible. She and her family have received countless death threats even since Hale was found guilty. Because of that, I can't believe there wasn't more protection in place for them. No person deserves what she's been put through and no job is worth it.
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this matthew hale asshole is from where i grew up... i remember when he brought his propaganda to all the hangouts where people hung out while i was in high school... one night he came up to our Hardee's and started parading around with pamphlets and whatnot... he got booted and came close to getting his ass kicked... i know one night he did get rocked, but it wasnt the night i saw him... it's amazing to me how much national attention this dorky motherfucker has received
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pearljamminagain wrote:
this matthew hale asshole is from where i grew up... i remember when he brought his propaganda to all the hangouts where people hung out while i was in high school... one night he came up to our Hardee's and started parading around with pamphlets and whatnot... he got booted and came close to getting his ass kicked... i know one night he did get rocked, but it wasnt the night i saw him... it's amazing to me how much national attention this dorky motherfucker has received
His organization went on that killing spree about 8 years ago that killed Ricky Birdsong, the coach of Northwestern's basketball team. The guy's a nut. Unfortunately, he has a right to preach the things he preaches.
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Chris_H_2 wrote:
His organization went on that killing spree about 8 years ago that killed Ricky Birdsong, the coach of Northwestern's basketball team. The guy's a nut. Unfortunately, he has a right to preach the things he preaches.
I remember when that happened, that was some crazy shit. I remember Hale saying some wild things when he was interviewed and such. He needs to be taken care of.
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Agents Target Followers of Supremacist
Fri Mar 4, 7:55 AM ET
By Stephen Braun Times Staff Writer
CHICAGO — Bearing down with grand jury subpoenas and teams of interrogators, federal agents and Chicago police sought two men for questioning Thursday in connection with the execution-style slayings of a federal judge's husband and mother, pressing for information from followers of a white supremacist who insisted from jail that he had no involvement in the killings.
Federal agents seized telephone and computer records from a residence in the Chicago area and interrogated relatives and supporters of Matthew Hale, the leader of an extremist faction known as the World Church of the Creator.
Chicago police released a sketch of two men wanted for questioning and sifted through photographs of Hale's followers in an attempt to identify the pair, who were reportedly spotted in a car parked near the judge's home in the hours before the slayings.
Hale, held at a federal detention facility while awaiting sentencing for a 2004 conviction for trying to arrange the murder of U.S. District Court Judge Joan Humphrey Lefkow, told his mother in a telephone call Thursday that none of his followers played any part in Monday's killings of Lefkow's husband, Michael F. Lefkow, 64, and her mother, Donna Humphrey, 89.
"There's simply no way that any supporter of mine would commit such a heinous crime. I totally condemn it," Hale told his mother, Evelyn Hutcheson, in a 15-minute phone conversation that was monitored and taped by FBI (news - web sites) agents. Hutcheson said Hale told her that the day after the slayings he was moved to a new cell "that didn't have anything in it."
Authorities said they were seeking information from anyone connected with Hale, but stopped short of describing him or any of his supporters as suspects.
But according to sources close to the investigation and several people questioned by federal agents, investigators are concentrating on Hale's relatives and a hard-core group of his supporters in Chicago and in his base in East Peoria, Ill., as well as white supremacist sympathizers from as far off as northern New Jersey.
"They're shaking the trees for anyone and anything they can possibly find," said a source familiar with the investigation. "They're clearly heading down the hate group angle."
The source said investigators were questioning Hale supporters who attended his two-week murder solicitation trial last year.
Hale was convicted in April of soliciting his group's security chief to kill Lefkow after she enforced a federal appeals court ruling that ordered Hale's church to change its name. He is scheduled to be sentenced in April.
Hutcheson said Thursday that a team of federal agents who showed up at her home in East Peoria asked her about recent conversations with Kathleen Robertazzo, a supporter of Hale's whose house in the north Chicago suburb of Hoffman Estates was searched by agents late Wednesday and early Thursday.
According to Hutcheson, agents sought Robertazzo's phone records, searched for firearms and seized the home computer she used as a freelance court reporter.
Several telephone calls to Robertazzo's home went unanswered, but Hutcheson said Robertazzo told her that agents "wanted to know why Kathy and I talk so much. They think Matt's getting his message out in code."
Under government restrictions designed to curtail his communication with the outside world, Hale is isolated from other inmates in the Metropolitan Correctional Center in downtown Chicago and can speak only to his parents by telephone every two weeks.
Police gave little background about the sketches they released of two white men — one believed to be in his 50s and the other in his 20s — who were wanted for questioning. Authorities would not say if they were witnesses or suspects, but the source said investigators had reviewed photos of Hale's supporters looking for matches.
A worker in a nearby church reportedly noticed the two men sitting in a red Ford Escort idled in a no-parking zone near the Lefkow home several hours before the bodies were discovered. The church worker told police that he notified the men that they were parked illegally, and they drove off.
Chicago Police Chief of Detectives Jim Molloy said the slayings were committed sometime between 10:30 a.m. Monday, when Humphrey spoke to a granddaughter by phone, and 5:30 p.m., when Lefkow found the bodies of her mother and husband in the basement.
Investigators have amassed evidence that is being analyzed by forensics experts for fingerprints and DNA traces, officials said. Authorities have not publicly described the evidence, but newspaper accounts detailed the items as a cigarette butt, a soda can and a plastic sheet apparently used to cover muddy ground near where a window was broken from the outside.
Ballistics experts are examining at least two .22-caliber shell casings found in a room where investigators believe the shootings took place. Analysts also are scrutinizing a bloody shoeprint found inside the house and a shard of glass where the killers apparently entered the house.
In an interview with the Chicago Sun-Times, Lefkow said she could not say whether the killings had "anything to do with Matt Hale or any of his followers, but I do believe it was a hit — not a random thing."
Protected by federal marshals and hidden with her four daughters, Lefkow promised Wednesday to return to the bench.
"Nobody is going to intimidate me off my duty," she said.
Police continued to cordon off the quiet residential street where Lefkow lives on the city's north side, and they were still knocking on neighbors' doors for information. One resident of a nearby apartment house said he had been questioned six times by FBI agents and police.
In Bergen County, N.J., a team of government agents visited Hal Turner, who has a white supremacist radio program that airs on shortwave frequencies. Turner said the agents, who work for the Joint Terrorism Task Force in New York, asked him if he "had any idea who did this, why they might go after the judge's family."
Turner said he told the agents: "I have nothing to say." The phrase is the standard response white supremacists encourage their supporters to give government interrogators.
Turner said Thursday that he had provided air time to Hale before his conviction last year.
According to a transcript from an April 2003 broadcast provided by Adam Schupak, associate director of the Anti-Defamation League of the B'nai B'rith in Chicago, Turner said Lefkow was "worthy of being killed. It wouldn't be legal in my opinion, but it wouldn't be wrong."
Turner said Thursday he was not advocating Lefkow's slaying. "If I had the intent to do something bad, I wouldn't broadcast it," Turner said.
Times researcher John Beckham contributed to this report.
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I can't wait until they find the pieces of shit that did this and string them up. Unless, of course, federal agents unfortunately have to kill them during the apprehension.
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Chris_H_2 wrote:
pearljamminagain wrote:
this matthew hale asshole is from where i grew up... i remember when he brought his propaganda to all the hangouts where people hung out while i was in high school... one night he came up to our Hardee's and started parading around with pamphlets and whatnot... he got booted and came close to getting his ass kicked... i know one night he did get rocked, but it wasnt the night i saw him... it's amazing to me how much national attention this dorky motherfucker has received
His organization went on that killing spree about 8 years ago that killed Ricky Birdsong, the coach of Northwestern's basketball team. The guy's a nut. Unfortunately, he has a right to preach the things he preaches.
Unfortunate??? I happen to think that this is one of the greatest things in the world!!! THe best way to overcome hateful, thoughtless bigoted speech is with more reasonable, logical, loving speech. You can't remove thoughts that are hateful, so there's no point in even trying to remove speech. REmoving speech, in any form, is the part that's unfortunate.
Unfortunate??? I happen to think that this is one of the greatest things in the world!!! THe best way to overcome hateful, thoughtless bigoted speech is with more reasonable, logical, loving speech. You can't remove thoughts that are hateful, so there's no point in even trying to remove speech. REmoving speech, in any form, is the part that's unfortunate.
i dont believe one of our three resident lawyers meant it that its unfortunate that he has the right, but more along the lines of he wants to think that way and preach that way, least thats how i took it
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Peeps wrote:
homersheineken wrote:
Unfortunate??? I happen to think that this is one of the greatest things in the world!!! THe best way to overcome hateful, thoughtless bigoted speech is with more reasonable, logical, loving speech. You can't remove thoughts that are hateful, so there's no point in even trying to remove speech. REmoving speech, in any form, is the part that's unfortunate.
i dont believe one of our three resident lawyers meant it that its unfortunate that he has the right, but more along the lines of he wants to think that way and preach that way, least thats how i took it
He said "Unfortunately, he has the right to preach the things he preaches"
As a lawyer, he should know better than to say its unfortunate that someone has the right to speech and preach. Perhaps that's not he meant, but those statements really irk me -- that basically say people like that shouldn't have the right to speak.....becuase honestly, who has the right to judge that?
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ElPhantasmo wrote:
homersheineken wrote:
honestly, who has the right to judge that?
In the case of hate speech, anyone with some semblance of common sense.
So then, hateful speech against the British oppression during the revolutionary war should have been banned (or in today's context Iraqi hateful speech against American occupation and atrocities)? How about the hateful speech against other hate groups (KKK)? How about hate speech against pedophile predators? I suppose that should be banned too then eh?
With your 'common sense' there's alot of things that people can't say that really should be said.....
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Peeps wrote:
homersheineken wrote:
Unfortunate??? I happen to think that this is one of the greatest things in the world!!! THe best way to overcome hateful, thoughtless bigoted speech is with more reasonable, logical, loving speech. You can't remove thoughts that are hateful, so there's no point in even trying to remove speech. REmoving speech, in any form, is the part that's unfortunate.
i dont believe one of our three resident lawyers meant it that its unfortunate that he has the right, but more along the lines of he wants to think that way and preach that way, least thats how i took it
Also "unfortunately" from the perspective of what it spawns -- peripheral groups that pick up on the hateful speech and act on it. First amendment protected free speech is one thing, but speech spewing hatred and vitriol against blacks, Jews, Catholics, etc., is another.
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Chris_H_2 wrote:
Peeps wrote:
homersheineken wrote:
Unfortunate??? I happen to think that this is one of the greatest things in the world!!! THe best way to overcome hateful, thoughtless bigoted speech is with more reasonable, logical, loving speech. You can't remove thoughts that are hateful, so there's no point in even trying to remove speech. REmoving speech, in any form, is the part that's unfortunate.
i dont believe one of our three resident lawyers meant it that its unfortunate that he has the right, but more along the lines of he wants to think that way and preach that way, least thats how i took it
Also "unfortunately" from the perspective of what it spawns -- peripheral groups that pick up on the hateful speech and act on it. First amendment protected free speech is one thing, but speech spewing hatred and vitriol against blacks, Jews, Catholics, etc., is another.
And Homersheineken, not all speech is protected.
Oh i agree that not all speech is protected. But this isn't one of those cases. This type of speech is protected as well it should be. Again, the best reponse to this vile, calous speech is even more speech depicting the speech as prejudiced, loathing, detrimental and ultimately useless. I don't like the idea that only certain people can judge what type of speech it is and if it's hateful. Becuase it's bound to be in the wrong peoples' hands
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homersheineken wrote:
ElPhantasmo wrote:
homersheineken wrote:
honestly, who has the right to judge that?
In the case of hate speech, anyone with some semblance of common sense.
So then, hateful speech against the British oppression during the revolutionary war should have been banned (or in today's context Iraqi hateful speech against American occupation and atrocities)? How about the hateful speech against other hate groups (KKK)? How about hate speech against pedophile predators? I suppose that should be banned too then eh?
With your 'common sense' there's alot of things that people can't say that really should be said.....
I misread your post. What I meant was that most anyone with common sense can judge whether hate speech is right or wrong. Legal vs. illegal is up to the courts.
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